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To: brushwud who wrote (177522)4/13/2004 6:26:59 PM
From: Elmer Phud  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Brushwud -

Thanks for you comments. I know you didn't say this but actually I don't believe I ever said that abortion should be illegal. I believe that a society should have the right to define what is permissible and what is not. What I would like to see is consistency and honesty. Rather than rationalize away the humanity of a subclass, let's be honest and admit we are killing then and we've decided that it's OK under certain circumstances. Once we've come to grips with that we can start killing our worst criminals without moral or ethical conflicts. And why stop there? We can also kill our insane, aged, retarded and other undesirables. The precedence has been set. If we simply change the legal definition of who is human we can really clean house! If human status can be granted by some arbitrary standard then can't we also take it away by some other arbitrary standard? If human status doesn't start at the very beginning than why do we have to wait until the very end to revoke it?



To: brushwud who wrote (177522)4/14/2004 12:04:19 AM
From: Robert O  Respond to of 186894
 
Categorizing elmerp's "ilk" in an attempt to refute his argument is classic ad hominem.

Huh?? I do the exact *opposite*. Indeed I tell elmerp I was NOT trying to paint him into the ilk. lol

elmerp never claimed...He merely pointed out how Nazis dehumanized their victims

Friend if you cannot interpret his line: "Now it's Planned Parenthood that has taken the place of the gas chambers." I predict low SAT verbals!

As a technologist, elmerp must be vastly more aware than you that eventually the means will exist to grow babies in glass jars

Uh, not sure if I'm a 'tecnologist' or not lol but the term in vitro (literally, in glass) has been around quite a while. What, you not aware of test tube babies??

making it right for a woman to kill a man's unborn child

Your final misogynistic line sez it all.

RO