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To: Lane3 who wrote (39456)	4/14/2004 5:59:29 PM
From: bela_ghoulashi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793883

Let me ask you this... Personal candor would be a good start.

To: Lane3 who wrote (39456)	4/14/2004 6:58:55 PM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 793883

"Did it ever occur to you that, had the partisans not chosen to make such an all-consuming deal out of Clinton's foibles that his administration might have had the time and energy to focus on terrorism and our troops might not be at risk today?" Seems there's always an excuse when a lib screws up. Who cares if the President lied & obstructed justice? Who cares if a married President is boinking young staffers in the White House? We don't need no stinking morals or ethics from our President.... as long as he is a lib. And as for the partisan rhetoric canard, I stand by my post earlier today. Message 20023643 I'll gladly compare verbatim quotes to see who took wallowing in the mud to new lows.

To: Lane3 who wrote (39456)	4/14/2004 8:02:13 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793883

Did it ever occur to you that, had the partisans not chosen to make such an all-consuming deal out of Clinton's foibles that his administration might have had the time and energy to focus on terrorism and our troops might not be at risk today? Ah, I was wondering when, and if, you would "go there." My response - which may surprise you - is "yes." Yes, I do wonder that. Yes, I do wonder why things are so polarized, and what the polarization causes. I've been reading up on my early American history, and polarization seems to have been a problem then, too, but I am also reminded of what one of my professors, Larry Levine, calls "the unpredictable past." Historians keep re-writing history in order to answer modern questions, and history can be awfully malleable that way. So looking at the past through historians' eyes is, and I like this expression, "fraught." We can argue counter-factuals all day, and I love to do it, and this is exactly the kind of counter-factual I like best, because it cuts both ways. Would 9/11 have happened if Clinton hadn't been distracted by Monicagate and Fostergate and Whitewatergate? Would 9/11 have happened if Bush hadn't been slowed down by the election debacle? Would 9/11 have happened if Gorelick hadn't established "The Wall"? So many counterfactuals, so little time . . . .