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To: Rambi who wrote (39475)	4/14/2004 8:06:07 PM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 793917

"You just can't ignore the emotional appeal of these images and the choice they offer to the viewer. We know who we are. They don't. " The problem is that the articles with these lies & baseless allegations are for readers who do not reside in Iraq. The BS they are preaching is intended to sway opinion with lies & deceit. Nothing written in these types of articles will make any difference to folks in Iraq directly. Indirectly, the effects of public opinion may eventually affect them & that outcome will not be good for most of the people of Iraq. You said you read up on Iraq & that region of the world. If there was much detail to it then you would have learned that in the region conspiracy theories abound almost everywhere. And these conspiracy theories make those told by folks like Raymond Duray, stockman_scott, Thomas M., TigerPaw, sylvester80, etc., pale in comparison. Like many deeply biased folks with inflexible POV's, most folks in places like Falluja are going to see what they want to see & believe what they want to believe, regardless of the facts. Writing BS articles that propagate more lies isn't going to help bring reality to the people of Falluja or to anyone who reads this crap. Giving any credibility to intentionally falsified, misleading & slanted reporting only helps to spread this type of thinking IMO. It helps no one unless you are with the anti-Bush, anti- war crowd & don't give a rats ass about consequences.

To: Rambi who wrote (39475)	4/15/2004 12:11:21 PM
From: Elsewhere	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793917

The Trouble With Civilian Casualty Stories By Jefferson Morley, washingtonpost.com Staff Writer Thursday, April 15, 2004; 8:14 AM washingtonpost.com This Washington Post article discusses the Fallujah casualties numbers. Although foreign news sites tend to pursue and play up the Iraqi civilian casualty angle more than U.S. sites, the substance of the reporting on most news sites, domestic and international, is similar. Sources named: - Rafie al-Issawi, Fallujah hospital director - An AP reporter visiting about 300 fresh graves on a soccer field, many of them with names of women and children - Fouda Rawi, member of the Iraqi Islamic Party - Osama Saleh al-Tikrit, a dentist at a Baghdad Hospital - Abed al-Illah, member of the Iraqi Islamic Party The Post's Baghdad correspondent replied to a reader question: Until journalists can get in and investigate on their own, I don't think we're going to get a fuller picture of what's going on. References: Aljazeera.net Aljazeera rejects US accusations english.aljazeera.net Islam Online Most Of Fallujah Victims Women, Children: Report islam-online.net Atlanta Journal Constitution Iraqi Gunmen Batter U.S. Supply Lines ajc.com Middle East Online Half Iraqis killed in Fallujah are civilians middle-east-online.com Herald Sun Fallujah truce frays heraldsun.news.com.au Age Russian firm evacuates 370 theage.com.au ABC Online Fallujah death toll mounts despite cease-fire abc.net.au Mail and Guardian 'Half the Iraqis killed were civilians' mg.co.za News24 Women, kids among Iraq dead news24.com Asia Times Wanted: A new Saddam atimes.com Anthony Shadid (Washington Post) Iraq: Live from Baghdad (transcript) washingtonpost.com