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To: LindyBill who wrote (39944)4/17/2004 10:46:08 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793727
 
Looking for a Villain, and Finding One in China
By EDUARDO PORTER - NYT - WEEK IN REVIEW

REMEMBER when China was exporting deflation? It was only a couple of years ago when economists warned that the country's cheap manufactured exports could push the world dangerously close to a spiral of ever-lower prices.

"The Chinese economy has certainly emerged as an important ingredient in the U.S. deflation story," warned Stephen S. Roach, chief economist of Morgan Stanley in October 2002. The World Bank also chimed in: "China's overreliance on the external sector 'exports' China's own deflation to the rest of the world."

Well, that's over. In March, inflation reared its head in the United States. The Labor Department reported that in the first quarter of the year, consumer prices rose at an annual pace of 5.1 percent. But despite this U-turn in the outlook for prices, one thing didn't change: China is still part of the problem.

Carl B. Weinberg, chief economist of High Frequency Economics, wrote to investors last week that "China's crowding into world commodity markets will boost perceived inflation in all the world's economies for a long time unless its growth trajectory is crimped." As an uncertain recovery in the job market and a bloated trade deficit stoke a lingering economic malaise in the United States, the prospect of China emerging as a competitor on an equal footing has led economists, businessmen and politicians to blame it for every economic woe.

Almost every politician, it seems, agonizes over China's vast labor force sucking in the world's industrial jobs. A few fret about China becoming too large a consumer market, enabling it to dictate terms to American businessmen and policy makers.

Some concerns are warranted. China's fast growth has been the major force behind the surge in commodity prices. Last year it ate up half the world's concrete output, a quarter of its steel production, a fifth of its copper and about 40 percent of its coal.

Moreover, China's entry into several markets, from toys to T-shirts, pretty much wiped out the other producers. "There are bound to be uneven effects in sectors they buy from and sectors that compete with them," said Jagdish Bhagwati, an economist at Columbia University.

But to hear some economists, it would seem that China has locked United States businesses in a deadly kung-fu grip. In a recent paper, John H. Makin of the American Enterprise Institute said China is choking off the profits of American companies with its hunger for commodities pushing up the price of raw materials and its cheap labor holding down the price of finished goods.

Even as China soaks up the world's manufacturing jobs, Mr. Makin wrote, Chinese workers are not spending their paychecks, salting them away instead in savings accounts and thus creating an imbalance between booming supply and weak demand.

Congress has tried to come to the rescue. In February, a bipartisan group of senators argued that China's undervalued currency has played a "major role" in the loss of 2.6 million American manufacturing jobs, and submitted a bill to slap a punitive tariff on Chinese imports.

But many economists, including Mr. Bhagwati, argue that China is getting a bum rap. "China's net effect on us is much less than what we think," Mr. Bhagwati said.

For instance, critics in the United States point to last year's $124 billion trade deficit with China as proof that the country is destabilizing the global economy by adding too much demand and too little supply. But China's global trade surplus last year reached only $16 billion- a better balance of supply and demand than the United States' $517 billion global deficit.

Besides, "much of our bilateral deficit with China is the transfer of previous deficits with Korea and Taiwan," said Clyde V. Prestowitz, a trade adviser in the Reagan administration who heads the Economic Strategy Institute. "Most of what China sends to us we stopped making back in the 1970's and 1980's."

Other economists argue that China's impact on prices is also overstated. In a recent study, economists at the Federal Reserve tried to figure out whether China was in fact exporting inflation or deflation to its trading partners. They concluded it was too small to do that. China accounts for only 5 percent of global exports and global gross domestic product, the study noted, and "the impact of Chinese exports on global prices has been, while non-negligible, fairly modest."

Fears of an Asian menace have come and gone before. The recession in the early 90's prompted dread that Japan would become the world's pre-eminent economic power, opening a Japan-bashing season that featured Americans smashing Toyotas with sledgehammers.

What seems to trouble Americans most about China is not its current economic impact, but what it might become. According to Goldman Sachs, China's economy will be bigger than America's by 2041. "It has the potential to displace the U.S.A. as the numero uno," said Mr. Prestowitz of the Economic Strategy Institute. "That's the bottom line."

Mr. Weinberg at High Frequency says that Americans will stop worrying about the current Asian menace when they feel better about their own economy. "If we were creating 200,000 jobs a month no one would care about China," he said.

The United States might then choose to see China as an upbeat influence: the supplier of cheap manufactured products that helps keep American consumer prices low; a key export market; and a major underwriter of the United States' budget deficit, which plows its savings into Treasury bills, contributing to America's economic recovery by helping keep interest rates low.

With fears of deflation dissipating, Mr. Roach at Morgan Stanley has taken to a more upbeat view of China's influence on the world: "We ought to be thanking the Chinese," he wrote last month.

But Americans probably won't.

Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company



To: LindyBill who wrote (39944)4/17/2004 10:53:30 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Respond to of 793727
 
Let me just have an imaginary conversation with Mr. Bennet:

The Bush administration, hoping to see settlements removed, has declared for the first time in American diplomacy that Israel can keep some settlements forever.

Ever heard of the Taba plan, Mr. Bennet? What did it say about the 20% of the settlements with 80% of population? Israel got to keep them, right? This was President Clinton's plan, right? So this is not the first time.

Hoping for a durable peace between bitter adversaries, the Bush administration has declared that Mr. Sharon should go it alone, without negotiating

You sound annoyed, Mr. Bennet. Have you noticed Yassir Arafat's behavior over the last ten years, esp. for the last 3 1/2? Wouldn't it be fair to say that Arafat has worked hard to convince first the Israelis, and now President Bush, that there simply is no such thing as negotiating with him, his word is worthless? Yet you make it sound like President Bush has abandoned perfectly sound negotiations in a fit of pique.

The mainstream Palestinian leadership wants a state with as much territory as it can get, with a peace agreement if possible, without if necessary

False, false, FALSE. Completely against ALL available evidence. If by "mainstream Palestinian leadership", you mean Arafat, he could have had a state ten times over in the last thirty years - if he was truly willing to have one next to Israel on as much land as he could get.

He doesn't want it. Everything he says (esp in Arabic) makes it clear that he regards a peace treaty and a state as a humiliation to be avoided. He would much rather have an acre gained from war than a whole state gained from compromise. That way he doesn't have to give up his dream - the dream of Saladin, to drive the Crusaders from Jerusalem.

The Bush administration, whose own peace initiatives have come to nothing, wants a peace agreement. Somehow

Remind us what hampered the Bush administration peace initiatives. Total non-cooperation - not even lip service - from the Palestinian Authority, wasn't it?

For example, in outraging Palestinians by giving sweeping support to Mr. Sharon last week, the Bush administration may have made it harder for Arab and European governments to back his approach.

When they had Clinton and Barak to work with, did these governments back their approaches? How heavily should anyone weigh the loss of something he was never going to have anyway?

Mr. Sharon is not concerned that his unilateral withdrawal might result in negotiations, because, his advisers say, the Palestinian leadership will not meet his baseline requirement, endorsed by President Bush: the destruction of violent groups like Hamas.

"his advisors say"? Do you really need Sharon's advisors to tell you what is totally obvious to any observer, to wit, that Hamas has flourished in the territories since 1993 because Arafat wanted them to flourish? At the height of Oslo, he would do no more against them than to 'put them in the closet' for brief periods when their 'operations' weren't convenient. You you still cannot bring yourself to treat Arafat's nurture of terrorist groups, includes his own groups - Al Aqsa, Tanzim, and Fatah - along with Hamas and PIJ as a fact, well-known to all observers.

Why are you so committed to telling your readers that Arafat is a moderate who should be negotiated with? It is lie, plain and simple.



To: LindyBill who wrote (39944)4/17/2004 11:07:29 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793727
 
Tom Friedman says that Bush just broke the stalemate:

Kicking Over the Chessboard
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

Published: April 18, 2004

At first, I thought I'd write a column that just ripped President Bush for declaring that the United States — after decades of neutrality — has decided to oppose the right of Palestinian refugees to return to Israel as part of any final peace settlement. Why is the president dragging America into the middle of this most sensitive Israeli-Palestinian issue? You're telling me that just because Ariel Sharon has to persuade the right-wing lunatics in his cabinet to undo the lunatic settlement mess that Mr. Sharon himself created, America has to pay for it with its own standing in the Arab world?

And while I was at it, I also thought I'd write that it is an abomination for Mr. Bush to say that Palestinians had to recognize "the new realities on the ground" in the West Bank — the massive Israeli settlement blocks — without even mentioning the fact that those "new realities" were built in defiance of stated U.S. policy and they have been just devastating to Palestinian civilians, who've seen their lands confiscated, olive groves uprooted and community fragmented.

But then I thought I also had to write to the Arab leaders wailing over the Bush statements and ask them a simple question: Where have you been? Saudi Arabia's crown prince comes up with one peace plan, one time, for one day. That was it. There's been no follow-up — not a single imaginative, or even pedestrian, Saudi, Arab or Palestinian initiative to sell this peace plan to the Israeli people. [heck, a single Saudi under-secretary flying to Jerusalem would have excited the Israelis about the plan - nsc] And what did the Palestinians think? That years of insane suicide bombing of Israelis wouldn't drive Israel to act unilaterally?

But after I got all these prospective columns off my chest, I decided what I really wanted to say was this: I'm fed up with the Middle East, or more accurately, I'm fed up with the stalemate in the Middle East. All it has produced is death, destruction and endless "he hit me first" debates on cable television. Arabs, Israelis, Americans — everyone is sick of it.

So now President Bush has stepped in and thrown the whole frozen Middle East chessboard up in the air. I don't like his style, but it's done. The status quo was no better. So, frankly, now I'm only interested in three things:

First, will Mr. Sharon win the backing of his right-wing coalition for his Gaza withdrawal plan — which has set off the biggest ideological split in the Jewish right since Camp David? If Mr. Sharon really does split his party and manages to withdraw all Israeli settlements and forces from Gaza, there will only be a far right in Israel and a far left, and a huge center — which is what stable, sane politics requires. That would be a sea change in Israeli politics. Israelis will prove to themselves and to the Arabs that they can, under the right conditions, break the grip of the settlers. The Arabs will never again be able to say: "Why should we do anything? Israel will never leave the settlements anyway." Moreover, Israel will very likely have to form a national unity government — of Labor and Likud — to pull this off, and only such a coalition could reach a negotiated final peace with the Palestinians.

Second, will the Bush team make sure that Mr. Sharon, or his successor, fully withdraws from Gaza as promised? The Bush folks are experts at throwing up chessboards and then leaving the room, with the pieces bouncing all over the floor, and not doing the follow-up (see Iraq) [we're still there, aren't we? -nsc] because it interferes with their domestic political agenda. Having given up real U.S. negotiating assets to get Mr. Sharon to move, if Mr. Bush turns a blind eye to any Sharon stalling, U.S. interests will be badly damaged.

Finally, if Mr. Sharon does pull out of Gaza, the Palestinians will have a chance to reposition themselves in the eyes of Israelis. They will have a chance to build a decent ministate of their own in Gaza that will prove to Israelis they can live in peace next to Israel. It will be hard and they will need help. [don't hold your breath, Tom. If the Pals were interested in building anything we wouldn't be in this mess - nsc] Gaza is dirt poor. But if the Palestinians show they can build a decent state, it will do more to persuade Israelis to give up more of the West Bank, or swap land there for parts of Israel, than any Bush statements or Hamas terror. This is the best chance Palestinians have ever had to run their own house without the Israelis around. I wish them well, because if they do well, everything will be on the table.

This is a real crisis for all parties. And as Paul Romer, the Stanford economist, remarked to me the other day about a different issue: "A crisis is a terrible thing to waste."
nytimes.com