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To: elpolvo who wrote (42995)	4/18/2004 2:14:47 AM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

laz'unfaire LOL!!!! OOFie OC Ah, can I get a translation of that into standard English. Or German. Or Spanish. Any of them will do. life is too short for us to have to watch you get OC and start researching and posting links to chit we've already read Dear friend, I am merely seeing that the historical record is understood correctly. didn't you see the irony and humor in the two bolded portions? Oh, yes. It is impossible for a fixed policy to cover all contingencies. However, can you see that it would be even worse to have every gov't employee making up law and policy as they see fit? it's easy to imagine what a diplomat should say in that situation and there's NO WAY i could ever imagine a real ambassador saying the sentence that you made up. i could see this maybe, "You know, Honorable President Hussein, the international community may not choose to look the other way if you decide to move in on Kuwait." Which that does. It directly contravenes the stated position of the US gov't. Now do you want every diplomat in the US Foreign Service winging it as they see fit? Or do you want them consulting Washington when they can and otherwise sticking to stated policy? but i appreciate your intelligent humor and irony and that's why i threw you the straight line question... "who told you to say that?" I thank you for honoring me with this opportunity to provide you with such first rate entertainment. her middle-aged hormones are raging and she's probably just making a cyber-play for my affections. <g> I think you overestimate the effect of those hormones on her intellect. I feel I should not comment on the second matter. you're right, i'm as dumb as a big stick. walk softly, and carry me... please. I'm afraid you shall have to carry yourself. I have a bad back. you and i are taking up way too much space on this thread with humor and sparring when we could be reading the articles and comments that stockman scott and lurqer are sharing here every day. they're much more useful than what we're doing here. i love those dudes! PM me where you are and I will try to find a good psychiatrist in the area. I'll do the same stockman and lurqer if they wish. God know they need it.

To: elpolvo who wrote (42995)	4/18/2004 10:18:04 AM
From: Poet	Respond to of 89467

and as to poet's warning about my intellect... disregard it. her middle-aged hormones are raging and she's probably just making a cyber-play for my affections. <g> LOL! Am I that transparent?

To: elpolvo who wrote (42995)	4/18/2004 12:31:48 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 89467

Instead of "we do not take positions on border disputes between friendly countries." or "Mr. President, if you really are considering invading Kuwait, by God, we'll bring down the wrath of God on your palaces, and on your country, and you'll all be destroyed." or "You know, Honorable President Hussein, the international community may not choose to look the other way if you decide to move in on Kuwait." Glaspie had responded "Mr. President, I need to consult my gov't before answering that question." Neither Saddam nor anyone else could then reasonably claim that the US had given a green light for invasion. If he went ahead and did it in 2 days anyway, it would clearly have been his choice. If he waited until Glaspie got an answer, that answer would likely be along the lines of the 2nd or 3rd responses, which he most likely would find highly discouraging. There is no way a foreign head of state can require an AMerican diplomat to immediately answer a question. So to that extent Glaspie did give the wrong answer. OTOH, it would appear that meeting with Saddam was setup and a bushwhacking.