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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: cnyndwllr who wrote (15829)	4/18/2004 3:59:04 PM
From: Alan Smithee	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

The North could not have won without its regular army. The Viet Cong carried on a guerrilla war that inflicted numerous casualties, but without the political focus from the North, and the well trained army of the North Vietnamese, there would likely still be two Viet Nams. Clearly, the United States' leadership did not understand Viet Nam and the political will in that country to resist all invaders. If only our leaders had considered the cost/benefit analysis in 1962 or so and left the region to its own devices. As for Iraq, I have concerns about how things are going there. Clearly, Bush's presidency is tied to Iraq, and he could very well not be reelected on that basis alone if things continue to go poorly. To withdraw, however, would be a mistake. The cost/benefit analysis supports our involvement there. The global political situation now is different than it was in the 1960s. In the Viet Nam years, we did not have radical Islamist militants trying to kill us on our own soil. Like it or not, we need to hunt down and kill the leadership of the Islamic militants. The world will be a better and safer place for it. Of the 3,000 people killed on 9/11, some were liberal, some conservative, and quite a number likely had no strong political feelings whatsoever. Bin Laden and Al Queda don't care. They were Americans. He doesn't care if he kills democrats, republicans, green party members, whatever. As long as they're American that's fine by him.

To: cnyndwllr who wrote (15829)	4/18/2004 6:44:34 PM
From: Chas.	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 81568

canyondweller guy, you're as wrong as Alan is about the NVA, the people or the VC of Vietnam. we were not defeated by the farmer, villager or peasant of Vietnam we were defeated by our own government, we kept up with all the tradional standards of measure for a fighting force, Army, Air Force(which I know quite a bit about)Marines, Navy, Coast Guard, CIA and other special operation groups. We were never allowed, by our own government, to fully proscute the war to the extent that we were capable of....it was 100% politics, the politics of McNamara, Laird, Johnson, Bundy and many other names no longer important...adding to a large degree of homeland confusion and doubt was Jane Fonda and John Kerry in essence helping fuel the fires of an already corrupt, mismanaged political group of pinheads in charge of fighting the war...... NVA and Viet Cong my ass.....there were several viable options available to ending the Vietnam conflict other than the disgraceful way we ended it... Nixon, Kissinger were the architecs of that miserable, despicable pulling out of VN txhe way we did.... there was a political agenda followed by those players and to make a long story short it goes like this..... Prolong the war until re-election time so that I can make promises to get us out of the war in a timely manner.... that deed accomplished, the defacto pull out was then a matter of expidiencey. for the record and my POV the only similarity between VN and Iraq is that people are dying....... regards from Chuck