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To: Elsewhere who wrote (40030)	4/19/2004 2:05:02 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793917

A very interesting essay, from someone who takes the long view: The New Arab Way of War By Captain Peter Layton, Royal Australian Air Force Proceedings, March 2003 The first great struggles between the Middle East and Europe to be recorded fully were the campaigns of Salamis and Plataea in 480-479 B.C. The Greeks triumphed, and for the next several hundred years Western civilization slowly advanced east. In the 7th century A.D. this was reversed sharply when the Bedouins emerged from Arabia, defeated the Persian and eastern Roman empires, and conquered the Middle East, North Africa, and Spain. The invaders eventually were stopped in the east in 718 at the city walls of Constantinople, and in the west in 732 some 200 miles from Paris. There were to be another thousand years of see-saw wars on sea and land before the last Middle Eastern attack on a major European city, Vienna, was repulsed in 1683. It was not until the attacks by Arabians on New York in 2001 that a major Western city again came under assault from the Middle East. cont. at usni.org

To: Elsewhere who wrote (40030)	4/19/2004 8:53:27 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793917

Thanks JJ. Thats been my point. And with a pacified kurdistan and a somewhat moderate sistani controlled south in place even if things elsewhere continue to be sticky at least we have a fall back position with regional leaders in place. Then if we are forced to confont Sunni terrorist , & baathists in the triangle in WW2 type terms, we will at least have the tacit support of the north and south while we either clean up the mess or declare victory and leave. As Meatloaf once said "Two out of three aint bad". By the way if we were to throw in the towel I think we should offer saddam back his old job. Sorry about the boys and the palaces saddam, but you take care of the animals. mike