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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Greg or e who wrote (17110)	4/19/2004 5:00:01 AM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 28931

Here would be some even more interesting numbers for Fredrick to consider ... maybe not just "One Big Bang" theory of the Universe , but infinite universes ? Yet if one wanted to justify the divine right of ownership , then one creation's timeline would be more convenient to lay claim and lineage to, for each set of "believers" & their particular set of "prophets" , now wouldn't it ? ( Creationists and Scientists both , might have to update and try to think outside the box even --->one more time ? God is funny that way , and can do anything he pleases) ;-) "Many World , Many Universe" hypothesis Professor Arthur Holmes (1895-1965) geologist, professor at the University of Durham. He writes regarding the age of the earth in his great book, The Age of Earth (1913) as follows: atributetohinduism.com "Long before it became a scientific aspiration to estimate the age of the earth, many elaborate systems of the world chronology had been devised by the sages of antiquity. The most remarkable of these occult time-scales is that of the ancient Hindus, whose astonishing concept of the Earth's duration has been traced back to Manusmriti, a sacred book." When the Hindu calculation of the present age of the earth and the expanding universe could make Professor Holmes so astonished, the precision with which the Hindu calculation regarding the age of the entire Universe was made would make any man spellbound. (source: Hinduism and Scientific Quest - By T. R. R. Iyengar p. 20-21). "Indian cosmologists, the first to estimate the age of the earth at more than 4 billion years. They came closest to modern ideas of atomism, quantum physics, and other current theories. India developed very early, enduring atomist theories of matter. Possibly Greek atomistic thought was influenced by India, via the Persian civilization." The cycle of creation and destruction continues forever, manifested in the Hindu deity Shiva, Lord of the Dance, who holds the drum that sounds the universe’s creation in his right hand and the flame that, billions of years later, will destroy the universe in his left. Meanwhile Brahma is but one of untold numbers of other gods dreaming their own universes. The 8.64 billion years that mark a full day-and-night cycle in Brahma’s life is about half the modern estimate for the age of the universe. The ancient Hindus believed that each Brahma day and each Brahma night lasted a kalpa, 4.32 billion years, with 72,000 kalpas equaling a Brahma century, 311,040 billion years in all. That the Hindus could conceive of the universe in terms of billions. The similarities between Indian and modern cosmology do not seem accidental. Perhaps ideas of creation from nothing, or alternating cycles of creation and destruction are hardwired in the human psyche. Certainly Shiva’s percussive drumbeat suggests the sudden energetic impulse that could have propelled the big bang. And if, as some theorists have proposed, the big bang is merely the prelude to the big crunch and the universe is caught in an infinite cycle of expansion and contraction, then ancient Indian cosmology is clearly cutting edge compared to the one-directional vision of the big bang. The infinite number of Hindu universes is currently called the many world hypothesis, which is no less undocumentable nor unthinkable. more than all the grains of sand of every beach in every ocean... atributetohinduism.com

To: Greg or e who wrote (17110)	4/19/2004 10:54:18 AM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

I am not aware of any support in the biblical texts; are you? As I wrote, I heard of it in lectures about the transformation of Judism from a central priestly organization to a decentralized rabbi based organization. This happened at the time of the destruction of the second temple. I think the rabbi who lectured on the subject was using a book called "A History of the Jews", but when I checked on Amazon there there several books by that name and I am not sure which one(s) are relevant. what we know about Jesus ... I should point out that this discussion did not depend upon whether there was a single Jesus, or if the Jesus movement was based on a composite of John the Babtist and other people of the time. TP