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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (48719)	4/19/2004 4:38:24 AM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 74559

do the 300,000 include any casualties from the wars against Iran and the USA [Desert Storm]? My understanding is that these corpses are of people who were killed more or less where they lay, and that most were killed execution style. People who were killed in battle tend not to have been tied up first nor shot in the back of the head.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (48719)	4/19/2004 8:50:11 AM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

<<<We'll take a poll and if more than 50% want us out, we'll get Saddam and put him back in his palaces and leave town.>>> That's putting them between a rock and a hard place. They don't want us and they don't want Saddam to return. The hard truth is that they don't know what they want. Their problem has now become our problem. Going into Iraq was a difficult choice. For all kinds of good reasons we had to go there, but there are also all kinds of bad reasons for going in there. The truth is, we went in there with a mixed bag of reasons. We should have reasoned it out much more carefully and taken our time going in. There was no reason to rush going in. At a minimum, that was one mistake that we made. If we do not have the reasoning ability to at least see that, we are going to make a lot more mistakes that we don't have to make. Pride is a killer. High boastings by the proud bring sorrow to the height to punish pride. Some things never change. Some lessons we never learn. Saddam was an evil being, very few people disagrees with that. But we could have brought him down at a lot lower cost to our own troops - including "the peace keeping effort".