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To: E. T. who wrote (9306)	4/19/2004 9:28:52 AM
From: zonder	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 20773

I don't think these cartoons, as described, are anti-Semitic at all. Unless, of course, one is to agree with the author that all criticisms of the politics of the state of Israel, including its brutality in occupied territories, extra-judicial assassinations, and oppression of the Palestinians is to be considered "anti-Semitism". In April 2002, the Italian quality daily La Stampa published a cartoon about the IDF's siege on the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem. It showed an Israeli tank turning on the infant Jesus, who asks: "Surely they don't want to kill me again?" In the same month the Greek daily Ethnos, close to the Socialist Party, depicted two IDF soldiers (with stars of David on their helmets) dressed as Nazis stabbing helpless Arabs. The caption: "Do not feel guilty, my brother. We were not in Auschwitz and Dachau to suffer, but to learn."

To: E. T. who wrote (9306)	4/19/2004 9:33:16 AM
From: rrufff	Respond to of 20773

Great article. Of course, you have some idiotic bigots on SI who will say that they are not anti-Semitic, particularly the cartoons you mention. It seems that many Euros would rather than whine with their wine rather than be objective when it comes to the terror war.

To: E. T. who wrote (9306)	4/20/2004 5:14:07 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20773

E.T., Methinks Mr. Gerstenfeld doth protest too much. I am proud of the liberal heritage of Jewish intellectualism. And I've been swayed in my thinking by this heritage. What is most annoying about narrow-minded bigots like Gerstenfeld is that he conflates a criminal-minded Zionism with the Judaic religion, and to add insult to injury utterly fails to understand the irony of his championing the Azkenazi tribe at the expense of the Sephardic members of the cultures of the Middle East. Mr. Gerstenfeld is a pompous buffoon, IMO. Unfortunately, his ridiculous worldview is costing far too many lives and creating far too much angst among the rest of us. It is the sheer greed and self-delusion of men like Gerstenfeld that make them so despised by the rest of us.