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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (9351)4/20/2004 11:34:40 AM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20773
 
You should give a benefit of the doubt. In many cases people see what they want to see when they look into "semantic sophistries".

Does that mean there are no hidden agendas? no. I am suspicious of everyone, but I also try to remain hopeful as well. Hatred and bigotry are pervasive things, and can be found everywhere- a nuanced view, though, is always helpful in sustaining hope (again, just my opinion.)

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to talk to you about this. Though I think we come at this differently, I appreciate your time.



To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (9351)4/20/2004 11:39:56 AM
From: rrufff  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20773
 
You have hit the nail on the head. Haters throughout history have been able to "justify" their bigotry with semantics.

As you suggest, "words and semantics are important frames of reference to keep in mind."

You constantly post about a "Judeo-fascist" clique,implying that this clique is behind everything from 9/11, politics in Belgium, scheming in the MidEast, and the US political structure. When questioned you go from the broad brush attack of a typical bigot to hedging by claiming that you really mean "Christeo-fascists" in the US, and that Evangelicals are supporting Israel as a way of furthering their fanatical faith.

With all this hooey and double talk, it is clear that semantics is your world and that it doesn't matter so long as your real objective is advanced, and that is that you have an audience for your very strange theories.

Let's get off the semantics and go back to a very simple series of questions I have asked you for the past year, and which you have constantly ignored.

I guess the real question is whether or not you feel Hitler was right in retrospect with his beliefs and how he implemented them. Hitler had the power to do what he believed in, unlike most racist bigoted scum.

Should Hitler have been stopped? Should the US and other nations have interfered as soon as it was apparent what Hitler was doing with respect to the Jews? Or would this be "wrong" in your view as "regime change" or internal interference in the rights of a sovereign nation?

Did Hitler go far enough? Would it have been for the "better good" had Hitler gone further and, by that, I mean towards the elimination of the "Judeo-fascist" power base, which you claim controls much of the world's politics.

I look forward to your frank answers