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To: GST who wrote (129685)	4/20/2004 3:13:48 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

If the elected leader of Hamas was hiding in a unknown cave, moving from one hiding place to another, and if he directly participated in planning terrorism in the past and was actively planning more for the future, and if you could prove that in a court of law, and if you spotted him via remote sensing, and if there was no prospect of capturing him, then I would acknowledge the right of self-defense If all these conditions apply, GST, and you were the Israelis, then obviously you would only know about it via your military intelligence right? So tell me, what does "prove it in court of law" mean in this context? No one can bring their intelligence sources to light in open court, not without destroying them (as in literally, killing their informants) and making sure they will never have intelligence again. That is why trials in open court are almost always limited to crimes commited in areas over which you have jurisdiction and policing power. So aside from the nonsense about "proving it in a court of law", which no country on earth could do, all your conditions hold regarding Hamas leaders. They were moving from hiding place to hiding place, usually surrounded by children as human shields, in Gaza City, a place where the PA has had jurisdiction since 1994. The Israelis have no power of arrest in Gaza City. The Israelis wasted years under Oslo giving intelligence to the PA and asking them to stop Hamas, only to see the Hamas leaders jailed for one day then released, or warned by the PA which attacks had been detected and should be abandoned, and which were good to go. btw, what does "elected leader of Hamas" mean? Do you think Hamas holds elections?