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To: Niels Larsen who wrote (6885)	4/20/2004 4:25:12 PM
From: miraje	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 19789

Las Vegas could also be said to show the worst aspects of the capitalism that has made your country so great. OT: Now that's truly funny. Las Vegas and Nevada are sterling examples of what capitalism can accomplish when it's not shackled by high taxes and idiotic regulations. Vegas is growing and prospering at a rate that you wouldn't believe. Disneyland for adults... reviewjournal.com Nevada's jobless rate remained unchanged in March at 4.4 percent, but the state continued to lead the nation in job growth over the past year. Employers have created 44,700 new jobs in the past 12 months, an increase of 4.2 percent, the state Department of Employment, Training and Rehabilitation reported Monday. Nevada's unemployment rate was 1.3 percentage points lower than the national rate and 2.1 percentage points lower than neighboring California.

To: Niels Larsen who wrote (6885)	4/20/2004 4:59:33 PM
From: miraje	Respond to of 19789

I can tell he has no idea and couldnt find his e-address. You can join the party here: informationweek.com (here are a few choice comments from that forum) ...Im running mandrake 9.2 on an IBM dual pII, with onboard sound. Its dual-booted with XP, which says the sound hardware is Crystal WDM. Whatever I try in Linux, the sound won't work. It doesnt even use the system beep speaker which I can make Windows use. I know what the answer is, get a supported sound card, like a Soundblaster, and actually look at the distro's website for supported hardware. Sure its Intel's fault. Linux coders cant just pull drivers out of their ass. But the fact remains that Linux sound support is abysmal... ...Ditto on a Compaq Presario R3065US with Mandrake 9.2. configsnd or sndconfig (can't remember exact name) caused same problems with Crystal Audio. The configuration program was honest -- "sndconfig cannot configure your sound hardware." Similar problems on Toshiba Tecra 8500 with prior Mandrake revs. Also, Trident Blade VGA adapter on the Tecra required custom X11 drivers to get the video to work in X at all -- to the tune of $180!... ...For sound cards, it boils down to: Is it custom? Yes. Did it work under Windows? Yes. Under Linux? No. Retain dual boot configuration. After skimming ahead and reading some responses regarding the Linux generic sound drivers, I have to report the same experience even after saving and pressing M to unmute. For me, sound is a "nice to have" in Linux. Arguably, sound may not be a business requirement for most others. However, with many functions being integrated (voice telephony) into computers in today's business environment, many can't live without this function. For some, it must be addressed, and it should... ...Struggling myself to install and properly configure a Debian 3.0 "Woody" (with a 2.4 kernel) system on my old K6-500MHz system with an Aureal 8830 based sound card (more like the rotting edge of technology than the cutting edge), my experience has been much the same as Fred's. The point everyone is missing is that if someone as technically minded as Fred can't get Linux properly configured, even using paid support, what hope for the rest of us? (Having said that, my experience of Windows paid technical support is very poor, most techs only seem to know how to change the desktop wallpaper). I'm not as experienced as Fred at OS management, but I like to think given enough time I can sort most problems out. The trouble with Linux (at least with Debian) is that you need to read a 60 page manual about each and every minor change that you want to make. It took me 3 days (in my spare time admittedly) to work out how to properly install TrueType fonts, and get them configured for Firefox to see them. My greatest triumph was getting my Winmodem to work (though I can only access the internet as a SuperUser). All this time I've been ignoring the fact that the sound card doesn't work. I've spent the best part of a week now researching this one issue. The ALSA drivers on the distribution CDs don't have an aureal driver. I downloaded a Linux aureal driver (can't remember where from), but it doesn't work. It appears that the latest ALSA drivers may have Aureal support, but they need a 2.6 kernel, and I didn't really want to have to upgrade the kernel just to do this. But, if someone would like to let me know how to get my sound card working, I'd be delighted to hear from them...