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To: Greg or e who wrote (17195)4/20/2004 8:32:16 PM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931
 
"If you know of so many actual ancient historians who believe that Jesus did not exist then why don't you just cite them?????????"

An interesting case-study for how we discover the truth of claims and verifying historical events for you to consider , which involves the question of who burned the largest library in the known world at Alexandria, Egypt. You'll find all this so called "biblical scholarship & scholars " conveniently at a complete loss for identfying the culprits of this one monumental event in history, let alone the historicity of a man that taught for only 2yrs in a tiny 25mile radius of northern Galilee. Does that make you wonder at all about such scholarship having any validity at all? This Library existed for almost 1000yrs .

Here you have the Catholic mother Church version , and no mention of Christian mob's culpability later when under Theodosius had so many pagan temples including one in Alexandria were destroyed in the empire ...how geniune is this that they conveniently skip over that period of Theodosius and his Taliban Christians ? hmmmm?
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Such a lamentable sorry excuse for "scholarship"....the truth is that the Christians burned it .

But let's blame it on Ceasar ...or the Moslems 700yrs later ! Now this is as blatant a piece of slanted "scholarship" that one could ever hope to find in the interpretation of this great loss to the entire world . The Christians could never have done an act so dastardly as to burn the greatest library the world had ever known . Hardly an event to go unnoticed , unless we consider who was burning all the books and temples of that time.<G>

ahem....all one can really say to that "scholarship " you worship so much here Greg --->is it is mostly complete rubbish when it comes to actual history. This includes Jesus and the rest of the myths and legends that were used by emperors priests and popes to control the masses.

But they were only books & scrolls...



To: Greg or e who wrote (17195)4/20/2004 8:53:22 PM
From: Solon  Respond to of 28931
 
You are still unclear on the concept. I average about one citation a day, do I not. I believe the last one was Robert Price.

But let me help you with this: Do you have a University near where you live? Does your University have scholars in paleontology, anthropology, archeology, history, and so forth? Visit there and speak to the "scholars". The Christian "scholars" will believe in a Divine Jesus (and if they are fundamentalists--a flat earth and demons); Everyone else will believe that the Divine Jesus depicted in the gospels is mythological.



To: Greg or e who wrote (17195)4/20/2004 9:55:44 PM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931
 
The Jesus archetype ....the common man creates a messiah out of hope and longing .

What of the prohet Isaiah ? Were there many Isaiahs or one ?

The "scholars" you would point to...now many believe there are at least two and many theorize there are actually three different Isaiahs or prophets we are reading when we open the Bible ...hence the phrase

"A prophet for all seasons "

There's Isaiah 1-39 , they believe is the original 8th century Isaiah from Jerusalem and full of warning and God's wrath for Israel and Judah ...and verses 40-66 scholars believe is another prophet living later in exile before Babylon's fall and the return from exile . And he speaks of deliverence and a return to the land and an ending to "The Wrath". This is called Deutero Isaiah .

Then the third "Trito" Isaiah emerges in verses 55-66 with changes in vocabulary and many theorizing this was written by a fifth century Judean after the return from Babylon to Jerusalem . Seems to be a prophet for all seasons , and lived an excedingly long time to be writing of such distant diverse events of several centuries.

So One Isaiah or three? One Jesus or many ? What would you theorize along with these Biblical Scholars ?