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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (17215)4/20/2004 9:29:29 PM
From: 2MAR$  Respond to of 28931
 
What was the point of the fig tree again ?

was I close here:
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we are in the midst of destruction of the old laws , the old ways of seeing ....of getting rid of blindness and shameful unrighteous behaviors , and back to love and brotherhood , even down to the sin of being angry with your fellow, Jesus supposedly made the distinction of . And yet this is pretty violent behavior towards a tree....or the pigs he drove over the cliff.

And still they were slitting the throats of sheep and goats back in the Jerusalem temple by 1000's even in Jesus day . Of course the priests made sure to slit the throats of these creatures with sharp knives so as to not cause unecessary suffering .We wouldn't want them to suffer and these righteous "chosen ones" were not so dumb as to not know what they were doing was absolutely stupid.

They were only animals , and many were eaten later if the people who payed the priests with them were poor and needy , but yet I'm surprised this was not made more of a central issue in the ministry ? Since one of the prophets named Isaiah made a distinct charge against the disgust God had for the sacrificing animals , and how these offerings stank in his nostrils.

Yet 700 yrs later they were still doing it en mass? Slow learners I would say , and desperately in need of a messiah. The Temple in Jerusalem had special gutters that ran with rivers of animal blood from the sacrifices out of the inner sanctum. And yet the greatest prophet among them had sworn it was distinctly foul in the eyes & nostrils of God almost 1000 yrs earlier.

Such ancient superstition represented the will of almighty God? Not a peep from Jesus , who was too busy being righteous and withering fig tress and pigs proving his "godhood"?



To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (17215)4/20/2004 10:10:43 PM
From: Solon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931
 
"He was making a point and it was only a tree. Of no consequence"

That is an ignorant remark. Of course, all things are of consequence. So what point was He making? The text is clear: He was hungry and He noticed the tree from afar...

"12 And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry:
13 And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet.
14 And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it.
"

It is clear that He cursed it because He was hungry and was pissed when He walked all that way and found He was to remain hungry. Throwing a temper tantrum is immature at the best and emotionally ill at the worst.

"Because you show here with your inane opinions that you think you know better than God."

I know better than to curse a fig.

"Babies being aborted in the wombs of their mothers do experience pain"

How about 42 school children being shredded and mangled by bears? Do they feel pain, oh Wise One??