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To: Srexley who wrote (567138)	4/21/2004 12:00:53 AM
From: Nikole Wollerstein	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

In the decade since Scambag Clinton kissed Arafat in Rose garden 4000 people in Israel have been killed including USA citizens. After Likud party came to power number of fatalities dropped more than 50% "To date there has not been a single instance in which Hamas leader sent his own kid on a suicide mission because this guy believe in the story of 70 virgins as much as you and they have a good life and want to live In illusions of peaceful co-existence sustained by the Israeli government’s tacit decision have been taken not to target terrorist ring leaders, for fear such attacks would inspire massive retaliation . What followed was bloodiest terrorist onslaught in Israel history that climaxed in a massacre Netanya March 2002. After that Israel invaded West Bank and began target terrorist leaders. Results have been Dramatic in 2003 number of terrorist fatalities dropped from 451 to 213 more than 50% (it is less that people killed in Detroit, USA last year), number of attacks dropped 30% amount of Pals killed dropped 30%. Terrorism is top-down business: Target assassination got rid off most guilty and diminished risk of open combat.

To: Srexley who wrote (567138)	4/21/2004 2:22:09 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

"the Likud party came into power and reversed the peace plan developed under Clinton, Rabin and Arafat" Didn't arafat reject it? Arafat backed out of the peace talks because Israel won't agree to right of return. "The Likud regained control and that's when the current Jihad began" Seems like a bad strategy to me. It is hurting the Palestinians big time. People do desperate things in desperate times. "Look........which comes first, the chicken or the egg?" Based on your words, looks like the jihad came after a political change in Israel. "they will understand what $h*ts the Israelis have turned into" That's not very nice. What is nice about a blood feud? Its very easy to discuss this issue like two reasonable adults but real people are killing each other over this feud. In the meantime, one party is Goliath while the other is David. "What happened to the Oslo Accord........agreed to by Rabin, Arafat and Clinton?" Again, I thought Arafat rejected it. Arafat helped construct the Oslo Accord. He won a Nobel prize for it......so did Rabin. "So now, the West Bank is not the home to be of the Palestinians but a buffer zone for the Israelis" I think it could be the home. But the Palestinians need to start acting in a more civilized and diplomatic way. The world will surely back them if they do, and the Israelis will have no excuse for killing Palestinians. You have to acknowledge that IF the Palestinians quit wasting their youths on suicide missions to kill innocent civilians, Israel would be in a tough spot if they kept up with their tactics. I think you know that, but your sympathy (or empathy) for the Palestinians won't let you see it. You can suggest a nice, buttoned down solution to the problem but I am afraid the two parties are way past that point. Besides, its a bad neighborhood......reasonableness is a rare commodity in those neighborhoods. However, that's not really my concern but what does concern me is the position my gov't takes in the dispute and the use of my tax money to favor one country over another. That's what I oppose. I want us to stop subsidizing Israel at the expense of our relations with the Arab world. What Israel and Palestine do to each other after that is their concern.

To: Srexley who wrote (567138)	4/21/2004 2:53:00 AM
From: AK2004	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

re: but your sympathy (or empathy) for the Palestinians won't let you see it. as you can see from reject's response he hates arabs as well it is just he hates Israelis so much more

To: Srexley who wrote (567138)	4/21/2004 12:42:00 PM
From: Johannes Pilch	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Didn't arafat reject it? Eeeeyup. It was amongst the most fantastic of all his mistakes. Had he accepted, he would have had quite a tremendous base from which to press for other demands. He was too undisciplined, too impatient, too savage to see the opportunity. He also proved that Palestinians are unreasonable and, from the state of Israel's perspective, too incompatible to sustain a civilized state-to-state relationship with Israel. Israel has a right to defend herself. She needs to be free to exercise that right. But, whatever happens, it'll all work out in the end.