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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Greg or e who wrote (17233)	4/21/2004 11:08:13 AM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

That is CRAP. Price quotes Lane's exact words and exposes the childish mind. "My friend, I know Christianity is true because God's Spirit lives in me and assures me that it is true. And you can know it, too, because God is knocking at the door of your heart, telling you the same thing. If you are sincerely seeking God, then God will give you assurance that the gospel is true. Now, to try to show you it's true, I'll share with you some arguments and evidence that I really find convincing. But should my arguments seem weak and unconvincing to you, that's my fault, not God's. It only shows that I'm a poor apologist, not that the gospel is untrue. Whatever you think of my arguments, God still loves you and holds you accountable. I'll do my best to present good arguments to you. But ultimately you have to deal, not with arguments, but with God himself." [3] A little further on he saith, "unbelief is at root a spiritual, not an intellectual, problem. Sometimes an unbeliever will throw up an intellectual smoke screen so that he can avoid personal, existential involvement with the gospel."[4] Message 20047719 Here Richard Carrier, an expert in ancient history, reviews Doherty's book on the mythical Christ and finds it convincing and scholarly. "First of all, let me say this: having read the entire book carefully, and having checked those facts I did not already know, I can honestly say as an expert that Doherty's facts are generally all in line. He does not make anything up or fudge the truth. And as far as I could tell, he doesn't leave out anything significant. Where he puts his own spin on things, he is usually explicit about that, and argues for his particular interpretation rather than asserting it as given. The exceptions to these general observations I detail at length in Appendix 1: Problems. But to a remarkable extent, I can sincerely vouch for the fact that lay readers can trust him as an historian and translator. All you need do, then, is assess how his facts relate to his arguments, and how strong these are in the end, an act of reason that any rational person, with care, can undertake. A special education is not necessary." But even if Christianity does owe anything to a man named Jesus, a mere man named Jesus cannot validate the Christian message--only a Divine Jesus can do that. So you are up the river without a paddle. Only infomercial Christian"scholars" like Lane believe in a Divine Jesus. Nobody is led strictly on scholarship to a belief in the gospels as being fact instead of myth. That is why ONLY scholars with an agenda (Christian "scholars") believe in a Divine Jesus. infidels.org "Real scholars don't waste the majority of their time engaged in ad hominem rants" If you accuse Mr. Price of not being a scholar or of ranting, you are simply lying.