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To: Threshold who wrote (19978)	4/22/2004 6:35:14 PM
From: paret	Respond to of 48463

Read the news ajonsey--and put two and two together. The nice muslims kill people all over the world.--Spain, Russia, USA, Philippines, Inia, Pakiistan, Sudan, Algeria, Indonesia, Israel, Syria, Iran, Egypt, etc etc etc.

To: Threshold who wrote (19978)	4/22/2004 7:42:06 PM
From: paret	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 48463

Ajonesy isn't bright enough to see who bombs and bombs and bombs. Al Qaeda Goes Regional: Basra, Riyadh Bomb Blasts Coordinated with Thwarted Chemical Strike in Amman DEBKAfile Exclusive Report April 21, 2004 The horrifying homicide bomb blasts that hit four police facilities and two school buses in the British-controlled south Iraqi port of Basra and the Saudi General Security building in Riyadh on Wednesday, April 21 were part of a wider al Qaeda plot. In Basra, many children were among the 68 killed and hundreds injured, 5 of them British soldiers. From Riyadh, there are no official figures. Most reports speak of 9 to 12 killed and 125 injured. The combined death toll cannot be far short of 100. DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources reveal that for the first time since the September 11 attacks in the United States, Osama bin Laden’s network is operating on a regional scale. Its original plot included Amman and the Adam border crossing from Jordan into Israel and the West Bank. These two targets were singled out for al Qaeda’s first chemical attack, which Jordanian security authorities foiled earlier this month when they intercepted one of the pickups loaded with explosives and poison gas containers after it crossed in from Syria. That capture led to more team members being apprehended. In Amman, government buildings, a luxury hotel, the US embassy and thousands of lives were saved. The second part of the hit-team was to have attempted to cross into Israel through the Adam terminal. If it failed to pass through, the suicide terrorists were to blow themselves up and release the poison gas in the middle of the crowds of travelers and tourists to and from Israel that normally crowd the facility. Jordan’s second anti-terror coup in less than a month took place almost unnoticed on Tuesday, April 20. A tip-off led security forces to a villa in the swank Upper Hashemi district of Amman. Three occupants opened fire on the officers and were shot dead. The bare facts of this incident were disclosed, describing one of the three terrorists as Jordanian and the other two as foreigners. DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources reveal exclusively first that not all the suspects were killed; between five and seven were captured, and second they were Iraqi guerrilla fighters. This is the first time Iraqi insurgents have been captured outside their country on a suicide mission for al Qaeda. If this discovery were not chilling enough, the information Jordanian interrogators gained from their Iraqi captives set alarm bells jangling in Washington, Jerusalem, Amman and every Western capital alive to the threat of non-conventional, multiple-casualty terrorism. What they learned was: 1. The cell captured Tuesday belonged to the team that entered Jordan from Syria three weeks ago with three booby-trapped trucks loaded with explosives and poison gas containers. King Abdullah and his intelligence chief General Kheir estimated that their cargoes were sufficient to massacre 20,000 human beings. 2. The multiple strikes in Amman were planned for Wednesday, April 21, to coincide with the Basra and Riyadh bombings. But that was not all. 3. At the same time, toxic gas attacks were plotted for Israel or the Adam border terminal. There is no certainty that one last death truck is not still at large. 4. The most disturbing discovery for the Americans and Israel was al Qaeda’s new division of labor revealed by the chemical bomb team. It showed the network had departed from the methods familiar to US, Jordanian and Israeli intelligence. The terrorists who drove the trucks across the border from Syria into Jordan were not suicide bombers. Their job was to deliver the trucks to the Iraqis in the villa, who would then drive them on to targets and blow them up. Asked where they got their orders, the Iraqis replied from Saudi Arabia. Instead of operating on a local scale with the help of local terrorist affiliates, Osama bin Laden’s network is for the first time striking simultaneously in a number of different countries using imported operatives. Their orders and tactics are dictated from inside Saudi Arabia; the technology, bomb cars and non-conventional substances rigged in Syria; the homicide teams, Iraqis. This new mode of operation extends the area of the Iraq conflict into other Middle East countries, including Israel, and provides the fundamentalists with a broad, regional war theatre.

To: Threshold who wrote (19978)	4/23/2004 8:11:13 AM
From: paret	Respond to of 48463

Poll: 59% of Palestinians support continuation of terror after state is created -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To:tsigprofit who wrote (19977) From: ajonesy Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 6:03 PM of 19985 I don't believe the majority of either the Palestinians or the Jews want the violence to continue. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Poll: 59% of Palestinians support continuation of terror after state is created jpost ^ \| Oct. 22, 2003 \| By JANINE ZACHARIA Oct. 22, 2003 Fifty-nine percent of Palestinians believe that Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad should continue their armed struggle against Israel even if Israel leaves all of the West Bank and Gaza, including East Jerusalem, and a Palestinian state is created, a new survey shows. Similarly, 80 percent of Palestinians say that, under those circumstances, the Palestinians should not give up the "right of return." The poll of Palestinians, Israeli Jews, and Israeli Arabs was released in Washington on Wednesday by Itamar Marcus, founder of Palestinian Media Watch and written by pollster Frank Luntz. It was conducted by two polling firms, the Public Opinion Research of Israel and The Palestinian Center for Public Opinion. The poll also examined Israeli and Palestinian attitudes towards the US and towards terrorism. Nintey-six percent of Israeli Jews say the people who piloted the planes on September 11 were terrorists, while 37 percent of Palestinians share that view. Slightly more than one in four - 26 percent - of Palestinians believe Israelis planned the 9-11 attacks. Forty-two percent of Palestinians and 61 percent of Israeli-Arabs stated that they support the people who are attacking Americans in Iraq. Zero percent of Israeli Jews said they did. Marcus said he believes such opinions are "not coming from a vacuum" and that the survey demonstrates a "connection between Palestinian media and education and Palestinian beliefs and opinions." During the Iraq war, Palestinian Authority-sponsored television glorified the killing of American soldiers, a theme that has continued until now in various media, Marcus said.

To: Threshold who wrote (19978)	4/23/2004 8:15:36 AM
From: paret	Respond to of 48463

11% of Palestinians killed by other Palestinians, study shows ------------------------------------------------------------ To:tsigprofit who wrote (19977) From: ajonesy Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 6:03 PM of 19985 I don't believe the majority of either the Palestinians or the Jews want the violence to continue. ------------------------------------------------------------ 11% of Palestinians killed by other Palestinians, study shows Haaretz ^ \| 4/12/2004 \| Arnon Regular Over 11 percent of Palestinians killed during the intifada died at the hands of other Palestinians, according to a report by the Jerusalem-based Palestinian Human Rights Monitoring Group (PHRMP), headed by Bassem Eid. The recently published report, which sheds light on the chaos in the territories, is entitled "Intra'Fada." It states that 2,678 Palestinians were killed by the IDF during the intifada, while 297 Palestinians were killed by other Palestinians. Some 114 of the victims were clearly executed for allegedly collaborating with Israel, but the report describes a steep rise in other cases of murder as a result of criminal activity or family feuds. According to Palestinian police statistics published in the report, between January and October 2003, there were 103 murders and 230 attempted murders in the West Bank and Gaza. The most dangerous cities in the territories are Nablus, Hebron and Gaza, where criminal gang activity is rife and the violent settling of accounts between rival clans is frequent. Because of the ongoing conflict with the IDF, these cases are not investigated, either in the Palestinian-controlled areas or those controlled by the IDF. The report states that between January and October 2003, eight people were killed accidentally during exchanges of fire between rival clans or families. In addition, 165 armed fights between families were reported, as well as 10 rapes, 18 abductions of women and minors, 520 robberies and 1,202 other criminal incidents. One of the most infamous cases of collaboration with Israel noted by the report is that of Akram al-Zatma, who admitted providing Israel with information as to the whereabouts of Hamas leader Salah Shehadeh, killed by an IDF bombing in his home in Gaza. Al-Zatma is described in the report as "among the 'luckier' collaborators," as he is in prison awaiting an authorized execution. In another case, masked men broke into a makeshift prison in Tul Karm, apparently expecting an IDF raid on the premises, and executed eight detainees suspected of collaboration. Among the murders resulting from family feuds is the case of 69-year-old Leila Tabileh, from Nablus, who was killed by a members of a family that was insulted when she refused to allow one of them to marry her granddaughter. In a case that sent shock waves throughout Palestinian society, 16-year-old Mayyada Khalil Abu Lamda was raped on her way home from school by four taxi drivers in Gaza. The report states that local sources say it was likely that a rebuffed suitor was among the perpetrators. The report notes that the violence permeates all levels of Palestinian society, and that even the Palestinian Authority itself is among the victims of the chaos in the streets. Cases of gunfire on PA officials were reported, including shots fired in Gaza in October that wounded the Palestinian assistant state prosecutor, Saad Shaider, as he was leaving his home, and shots fired at the Palestinian health minister, Jawad al-Tibi, two months ago in Jenin.

To: Threshold who wrote (19978)	4/23/2004 8:17:30 AM
From: paret	Respond to of 48463

Poll: most Palestinians support attacks on Israeli civilians -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To:tsigprofit who wrote (19977) From: ajonesy Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 6:03 PM of 19985 I don't believe the majority of either the Palestinians or the Jews want the violence to continue. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Poll: most Palestinians support attacks on Israeli civilians Haaretz ^ \| 3/31/2004 \| Arnon Regular The Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research, the leading Palestinian polling institute, has disclosed that a majority of Palestinians, 53 percent, support terror attacks against Israeli civilians. This represents a rise in support for terror - last December, 48 percent of respondents in a poll articulated support for terror attacks. In the latest poll, 87 percent of respondents said they favor attacks on Israeli soldiers; 86 percent supported attacks on settlers in the territories. Just before the assassination of Sheikh Ahmed Yassin last week, 27 percent of Palestinians on the Gaza Strip supported Hamas, as opposed to just 23 percent who supported Fatah. By combining survey results from the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, the Ramallah-based Policy and Survey center found that 27 percent of Palestinians in the territories support Fatah, as compared to 20 percent who favor Hamas. A large number of respondents, 40 percent, refused to state a preference between the two movements. In December 2003, the Center asked the same questions, and found that 26 percent of respondents on the Gaza Strip supported Hamas, as opposed to 24 percent who supported Fatah. The new survey found that all the Islamic organizations - Hamas, Islamic Jihad and smaller groups - enjoy support of 29 percent of respondents. Once left-wing opposition groups are added to this figure, 35 percent of residents in the territories support forces that oppose the dominant Fatah organization. For the first time, a public opinion poll in the territories asked respondents the question: "Are you in favor of Hamas conducting diplomatic negotiations with Israel?" This question relates to one of the most pressing issues in Palestinian politics: who is most empowered to represent the Palestinians, the PLO or Hamas? In the new survey, 41 percent of respondents said that they support Hamas conducting negotiations with Israel. A majority, 54 percent, said they oppose such a scenario of Hamas-Israel negotiations. Center director Prof. Khalil Shikaki emphasized to Haaretz Tuesday that the poll was conducted before the Yassin assassination. He said: "There is a continuing trend of increasing support for Hamas, and the weakening of Fatah and the collapse of the Palestinian Authority, and, clearly, the assassination and Israeli military activity will accelerate this trend." In an article published Tuesday in The New York Times, Shikaki called on the U.S. government to promote elections in PA territories prior to the implementation of the separation plan, so as to restore legitimacy to the PA. The new survey also probed Palestinian responses to Ariel Sharon's plan to withdraw from the Gaza Strip and dismantle some settlements on the West Bank. A large majority (73 percent) of respondents said they welcome the separation plan; on the other hand, two-thirds of respondents said they viewed the plan as vindication of the "armed struggle" against Israel. Also, 61 percent of respondents said that they think that, "Sharon is not serious, and that he will not carry out the plan." Of the respondents, 58 percent thought that the PA ought to negotiate with Israel about the withdrawal; 38 percent said that Israel should pull-out unilaterally, without negotiations.

To: Threshold who wrote (19978)	4/23/2004 8:22:46 AM
From: paret	Respond to of 48463

62 percent of Palestinians support suicide attacks – poll -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To:tsigprofit who wrote (19977) From: ajonesy Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 6:03 PM of 19985 I don't believe the majority of either the Palestinians or the Jews want the violence to continue. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 62 percent of Palestinians support suicide attacks – poll Jerusalem Post ^ \| Nov. 6, 2003 \| KHALED ABU TOAMEH A majority of Palestinians continues to support suicide attacks against Israeli civilians, according to a new public opinion poll published on Thursday by the Jerusalem Media and Communication Center (JMCC). The poll found that 61.8 percent of Palestinians supported suicide attacks, while 34.9% are opposed to this form of terrorism. Another 67.9% said they supported the resumption of "military operations" against Israel "as a suitable response within the current political conditions." Twenty-eight percent said they rejected such attacks and because they find them harmful to Palestinian national interests. A majority of 42.3% said they supported the resumption of attacks inside Israel and the West Bank and Gaza Strip as opposed to 14.1% who said the attacks should be restricted only to the West Bank and Gaza Strip. More than 23.5% of those polled voiced opposition to the resumption of terrorist attacks on both sides of the Green Line. The poll, which covered a random sample of 1198 people over the age of 18 – 758 in the West Bank, and 440 in the Gaza Strip. It was conducted between October 18 and 21, with a 3% margin of error, and a confidence level of 95. JMCC public opinion polls are supported by a fund from Fredrich Ebert Stiftung Foundation in Germany. Of those surveyed, 58.9% are pessimistic about the future in general, while another 71.9% are not optimistic about the chances of reaching a peaceful settlement for the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. In regard to the intifada, 76.8% supported its continuation, with only 21.7% saying that they want to see an end to the violence. In response to a question about the end results of the of the intifada, 44.6% said the goal should be ending the occupation on the basis of UN Resolution 242 and establishing a Palestinian state. Another 43.0% said the intifada should end in the liberation of all of historic Palestine. However, 45.7% said they supported the two-state formula as the best solution for the conflict as opposed to 25.3% who said that the best solution would be a bi-national state on all of historic Palestine. The poll showed that Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat continues to enjoy Palestinian support, with 59.8% saying they would expect him to be re-elected if free and democratic elections were held today, as opposed to 30.8% that did not expect Arafat to win.

To: Threshold who wrote (19978)	4/23/2004 8:30:28 AM
From: paret	Respond to of 48463

Poll: 75% of Palestinians support Haifa restaurant attack ------------------------------------------------------------ To:tsigprofit who wrote (19977) From: ajonesy Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 6:03 PM of 19985 I don't believe the majority of either the Palestinians or the Jews want the violence to continue. ------------------------------------------------------------ Poll: 75% of Palestinians support Haifa restaurant attack The Jerusalem Post ^ \| 16 October 2003 \| LAMIA LAHOUD 75% of Palestinians support the suicide bombing of the Maxim restaurant in Haifa in which 23 people were killed. The center, headed by Khlail Shkaki, conducted the poll between October 7th-14th October 2003 in the Palestinian areas It has a 3% margin of error. The poll found that the popularity of PA Chairman Yasser Arafat has shapely increased from 35% last June to 50% in October, yet 82% believes the PA is corrupt.90% support internal and external calls for extensive political reforms. Arafat's popularity is at the highest in five years. However, over the past week, many Palestinian officials have expressed dissatisfaction with the way Arafat is dealing with his new Prime Minster Ahmed Qurei. Privately Palestinian officials said more and more people realize that Arafat does not want a reformed government with a prime minister and they are becoming impatient with the PA leader. Imprisoned Fatah leader Marwan Barghouti remains the second most popular Palestinian figure with 17%, supporting him, followed by radical Hamas leader Abdul Aziz Rantisi whom Israel tried to assassinate. Rantisi received 14% of support compared to 3% in June. Sa'eb Erikat has the support of 9%, Ahmad Yasin and Haidar Abdul Shafi of 7% each, Farouq Qaddoumi and Hanan Ashrawi received 5% of support , PM Ahmad Qurei' 4,) Mohammad Dahlan 2%, and former PM Mahmoud Abbas 1%. According to the poll, majority (61% ) support the appointment of Ahmad Qurai (Abu Ala') as prime minister . Only 27% oppose it. 62% believe Qurei and his government will be able to return to negotiations with Israel, but only 33% believe they will be able to control the security situation and enforce a ceasefire.

To: Threshold who wrote (19978)	4/23/2004 8:36:04 AM
From: paret	Respond to of 48463

Poll: Palestinians back terror even with state -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To:tsigprofit who wrote (19977) From: ajonesy Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 6:03 PM of 19985 I don't believe the majority of either the Palestinians or the Jews want the violence to continue. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Poll: Palestinians back terror even with state The Jerusalem Post ^ \| 23 October 2003 \| JANINE ZACHARIA Fifty-nine percent of Palestinians believe that Hamas and Islamic Jihad should continue their armed struggle against Israel even if Israel leaves all of the West Bank and Gaza, including east Jerusalem, and a Palestinian state is created, a new survey shows. Similarly, 80% of Palestinians say under those circumstances, the Palestinians should not give up the "right of return." The poll of 600 Palestinians, 600 Israeli Jews, and 400 Israeli Arabs was released in Washington on Wednesday by Itamar Marcus, founder of Palestinian Media Watch, and written by pollster Frank Luntz. It was conducted in late September by two polling firms, the Public Opinion Research of Israel and The Palestinian Center for Public Opinion. The poll also examined Israeli and Palestinian attitudes towards the US and towards terrorism. Ninety-six percent of Israeli Jews say the people who hijacked the planes on September 11 were terrorists, while 37% of Palestinians share that view. Slightly more than one in four Palestinians believe Israelis planned the 9/11 attacks. Forty-two percent of Palestinians and 61% of Israeli-Arabs stated that they support the people who are attacking Americans in Iraq. Zero percent of Israeli Jews said they did. Marcus said he believes such opinions are "not coming from a vacuum" and that the survey demonstrates a "connection between Palestinian media and education and Palestinian beliefs and opinions." During the Iraq war, Palestinian Authority-sponsored television glorified the killing of American soldiers, a theme that has continued until now in various media, Marcus said. Rep. Brad Sherman and Sen. Jon Kyl attended the press conference and both expressed shock at the inciting content of the Palestinian films and educational material presented. They vowed to investigate whether the US is indirectly funding the production of such propaganda in its aid to the Palestinian Authority.

To: Threshold who wrote (19978)	4/23/2004 8:44:44 AM
From: paret	Respond to of 48463

Poll: Most Palestinians support terror attacks [60%] ------------------------------------------------------------ To:tsigprofit who wrote (19977) From: ajonesy Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 6:03 PM of 19985 I don't believe the majority of either the Palestinians or the Jews want the violence to continue. ------------------------------------------------------------ Poll: Most Palestinians support terror attacks [60%] Jerusalem Newswire ^ \| September 3, 2003 Jerusalem (jnewswire.com) - A public survey conducted by the Office of Palestinian Information last week shows a solid majority of Palestinian Arabs support terrorist attacks against Israeli Jews. Nearly all of those polled said they absolutely oppose the detention of terrorists belonging to groups such as Hamas and the Palestine Islamic Jihad by PA forces. The poll The poll was conducted among a random sampling of 1,102 Arabs in Judea, Samaria and Gaza from August 21-28, and was reported in the Hebrew edition of the leftist Israeli daily newspaper Ha'aretz Wednesday. Some 60.2 percent of respondents said they supported ongoing terrorist attacks against Israel, and 56 percent felt such attacks serve Palestinian "national interests." An overwhelming 88.8 percent opposed curbing terrorism by detaining those Palestinians responsible for the violence. Nearly 80 percent were against the PA's recent decision to freeze contacts with Hamas and Islamic Jihad. Ha'aretz correspondent Arnon Regular noted the poll was part of a normal program used by Palestinian decision makers. Was Washington wrong? The results of the poll appear to strongly contradict Washington's commonly expressed "belief" that the Palestinian public opposes terror and would support Palestinian compliance with a reasonable peace plan, the IMRA news agency noted. US President George W. Bush has on several occasions referred to the Palestinian killers of Jewish men, women and children as an outcast few who do not represent the majority of "peace-loving" Palestinians.

To: Threshold who wrote (19978)	4/23/2004 8:50:17 AM
From: Bucky Katt	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 48463

A pity that pariah doesn't know to give a source when he posts a supposed "news" article. ROTFLMFAO, if the shoe fits.....

To: Threshold who wrote (19978)	4/23/2004 8:54:10 AM
From: paret	Respond to of 48463

Poor ajonesy is dead wrong. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To:tsigprofit who wrote (19977) From: ajonesy Thursday, Apr 22, 2004 6:03 PM of 19985 I don't believe the majority of either the Palestinians or the Jews want the violence to continue. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Poll: Most Palestinians support terror attacks [60%] Jerusalem Newswire ^ \| September 3, 2003 Poll: Palestinians back terror even with state The Jerusalem Post ^ \| 23 October 2003 \| JANINE ZACHARIA Poll: 75% of Palestinians support Haifa restaurant attack The Jerusalem Post ^ \| 16 October 2003 \| LAMIA LAHOUD 62 percent of Palestinians support suicide attacks – poll Jerusalem Post ^ \| Nov. 6, 2003 \| KHALED ABU TOAMEH PCPO Poll of Palestinians 24-28 February, 2004 IMRA ^ \| 3-3-04 Poll: most Palestinians support attacks on Israeli civilians Haaretz ^ \| 3/31/2004 \| Arnon Regular 11% of Palestinians killed by other Palestinians, study shows Haaretz ^ \| 4/12/2004 \| Arnon Regular Poll: 59% of Palestinians support continuation of terror after state is created jpost ^ \| Oct. 22, 2003 \| By JANINE ZACHARIA