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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (17264)	4/23/2004 2:18:05 AM
From: Solon	Respond to of 28931

"He is hitting a delicate balance with everything so that everyone who does not want to believe doesn't have to" You DO believe that God knows ALL things from the beginning to the end, don't you (even thought the bible makes it clear He knows nothing about it)? You Do believe that God answers prayers (sometimes), don't you? You Do believe that God does not do anything as a result of prayer that he would not otherwise do, don't you? After all...God knows from the beginning every breath of a sparrow--RIGHT? If God is all-knowing, He does not change His mind or His plan for YOU? So what is all this crap about free choice? You neither create nor change events by prayer...RIGHT? "man has done plenty of evil. But men just blame the evil on God!!" That is nonsense. Most rational people blame the person who is to blame. Our whole system of justice is based on the belief that people are accountable. And accountability is predicated on responsibility. So come back down to earth, won't you? Now when it comes to the hurt and harm inflicted on people by "ACTS of GOD" (mud slides, earthquakes, lightning fires, and so forth)...surely you don't try to implicate the innocent and the powerless in those ugly events? If you argue for a God of responsibility you must be willing to admit His responsibility. No mortal people choose "acts of God". That is why no humans can be held accountable and that is why Insurance Companies will not cover. When humans do "evil" at least they are held accountable, if caught. Nobody blames it on God except fundamentalist wackos. Atheists and humanists don't blame God for anything. So get rid of that foolish idea. Did God know He was going to flood the world and murder His creation...His free choice?? Did God know He was going to show Moses His hind parts? Did God know He was going to harden the heart of one of the Pharaoh's so that he could NOT have FREE CHOICE? Did not the Jews meet in 90 AD in Jamnia to choose a biblical canon and to declare further nominations closed? The Jews have kept their bible pretty tight. Not so the Christians whom have many bibles. Was it just coincidental that the Jews decided to encase their bible in concrete just at the time that a Judaic offshoot called Christianity was becoming a threat to their Nation? "Did you ever think that maybe many of them didn't want to go?" Yeah...I think about it all the time. Angels were not mentioned in the bible until Hagar had a visit at the fountain. She didn't want to go either. Now the sons of Ishmael want to come back.

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (17264)	4/23/2004 2:36:03 AM
From: Solon	Respond to of 28931

"When God made the angels he gave them no choice. And then Lucifer (the most beautiful of all angels) did choose" As always, your logic is simply striking. Of course Lucifer WOULD choose if he HAD no choice. Nothing God could have foreseen. It is hard to make an angel who will agree not to choose even if he has no choice in the matter. You should see how beautiful some of them are...

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (17264)	4/23/2004 2:41:54 AM
From: Solon	Respond to of 28931

"Did you ever think that maybe many of them didn't want to go? But they had to, they were under authority" I can't stop thinking about it. I wonder what nationality they were? Were they circumcised. Apparently, that is very important to Jesus. Cast out of heaven... It surely makes one think long, deep, and wide.

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (17264)	4/23/2004 2:57:00 AM
From: Solon	Respond to of 28931

"If God was any more obvious than He is then you would be forced to believe and the question is would that be against your will?" Why is giving honest testimony considered (by you) to be forcing somebody to believe? And what is wrong with believing the Truth? Should I lie to a jury so that their awareness of Truth becomes problematical? Is it necessary to be obscure or a liar to protect freedom of choice? If a lady asks a guy to do the decent thing and marry her, is it necessary that she lie about her pregnancy to preserve his freedom of response? Is God 100 times more stupid than we are?? Is freedom of choice synonymous with being kept ignorant? Lord love a duck. You are not going to understand any of this. After all...you asked me if I had thought about how 1/3 of the angels felt who were cast out of "heaven". It is almost more than I can endure...