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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (129871)4/23/2004 12:06:08 PM
From: Neocon  Respond to of 281500
 
As far as I can tell, it is the pervasiveness of Tercemundismo ----- the ideology which considers that the West collectively has prospered by exploiting the Third World, through neocolonialism ----- that provides the rationale for pro- Palestinian Jew hatred. The Jews were an example of the cavalier treatment of indigenous peoples by the imperial powers, who had no right to promise Arab lands to the Zionists.

Of course, after the defeat of the Turks, there was a power void in the area, and the British, as the mandatory power under the authority of the League of Nations, was within its rights to permit immigration, and to determine the final status of the territories under its aegis. But that tainted the origin of the state, insofar as it was spawned from the declining imperialist system.

After that, it did not help that the early Yishuv (Zionist community in Palestine) was overwhelmingly European and highly educated, in contrast to the natives. This ensured that it would continue to be viewed under the template of neocolonialism. Besides, Zionism is a nationalism, which is bad, unless it is the nationalism of the indigenous, which is justified by the fight against foreign oppression. So Zionism is bad, Palestinian nationalism is good, considering that the Zionists are the interlopers and the Palestinian are (sort of) indigenous.

Of course, one would think that the circumstances of the creation of Israel, namely, after the Holocaust and as a shelter for numerous displaced persons, would engage sympathy, as one might think that the admiration of many Arab leaders for Hitler might be alienating. Here the attitude that "the only good Jew is a victim" kicks in. The sympathy that accompanied the origin of Israel dissipated as Jews showed that they would not suffer outrages meekly, but would fight back. The Palestinians, as the stateless underdogs, started to elicit sympathy, while the Israelis started to seem like just an occupying power. People's grasp of history being often feeble, many tended to forget that it was the persistent hostility of the Arab Powers, and their determination to use the Palestinians to eradicate Israel, that created the situation of occupation in the first place.

Finally, I believe that the Left had enough anti- semites, but that it was not until recently that it became respectable to use certain phrases and idea originating in that tradition. Thus, those prone to anti- semitism now have an outlet on the Left.........



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (129871)4/23/2004 12:38:20 PM
From: carranza2  Respond to of 281500
 
My brother-in-law was a high-level muckety-muck for a major oil company in Indonesia during the mid-90s. He loved to tell the story about how he was assigned a driver even though he preferred to do so himself. Asked why, he was told that in the event of an accident, he would be automatically held at fault because he was present where he was not supposed to be. In other words, his status as a foreigner equalled fault regardless of the facts.