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To: Lou Weed who wrote (129914)	4/23/2004 5:59:02 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Sigh. You may want to brush up your googling skills. Here is the poll: In the predominantly Muslim countries surveyed, anger toward the United States remains pervasive, although the level of hatred has eased somewhat and support for the war on terrorism has inched up. Osama bin Laden, however, is viewed favorably by large percentages in Pakistan (65%), Jordan (55%) and Morocco (45%). Even in Turkey, where bin Laden is highly unpopular, as many as 31% say that suicide attacks against Americans and other Westerners in Iraq are justifiable. Majorities in all four Muslim nations surveyed doubt the sincerity of the war on terrorism. Instead, most say it is an effort to control Mideast oil and to dominate the world. people-press.org They also found Generally, people in the largely Muslim nations surveyed are divided over whether suicide bombings and other violence against civilian targets are justified in order to defend Islam against its enemies. Fully three-quarters of those interviewed in Turkey (76%) say such attacks are rarely or never justified. But more people in Pakistan and Morocco say suicide attacks in the defense of Islam are justifiable: roughly four-in-ten in each country say these attacks are often or sometimes justified (41% Pakistan, 40% Morocco). There is broader agreement that suicide attacks in specific circumstances – against Americans and other Westerners in Iraq, and by Palestinians against Israeli citizens – are justified. Large majorities in Jordan (70%) and Morocco (66%) believe suicide bombings carried out against Americans and other Westerners in Iraq are justifiable. Nearly half of those in Pakistan agree (46%), while 36% say such attacks are not justifiable. In Turkey, most respondents (59%) feel attacks against Americans in Iraq are not justified, but about three-in-ten (31%) say that they are people-press.org The Islamist ideas do not have just fringe support as can be seen from this, but large minorities or even majorities supporting them. Islam has long had the idea of becoming a shahid in 'defense of Islam'; but until the Islamists came along, the idea of defense of Islam did not include immolating yourself while blowing up lots of women and children in marketplaces and such. That is the new contribution of Islamism to the political landscape. Again, you're wrong......Al Qaeda, a terrorist organisation attacked us, not Afghanistan So what, Michael? If you can say, it wasn't me, it was that terrorist organization, then you should get a free pass? Is that your idea? States all over the Middle East have been attacking the US and Israel via well-funded proxies for years, then claiming aggrieved innocence and immunity. The Bush Doctrine says that the terrorist harboring states cannot hide behind such niceties, but will be blamed also. About time. No, but I'm sure it all lies with the Arabs 'cause it certainly can't be the Israelis I notice snideness is substituting for an answer here. The Israelis have their faults, and it was not a work of genius to get themselves into their current situation, but their faults pale when compared to the terrorist autocrats they face as enemies. You do think that democratic government is better than thuggish autocracies, don't you? Well, which side has which?