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To: Ilaine who wrote (129931)	4/23/2004 8:59:53 PM
From: Dr. Id	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Many in the US felt that way after the bombing in Madrid, that 3/11 would be Europe's 9/11, that finally Europeans would understand what we are going through. I think that with 9-11, much of the world hoped that the US would understand what they had all gone through, and develop some empathy for what it feels like to be attacked. Instead, the Bush Regime response was to go on bombing raids of Iraq (who had NOTHING to do with 9-11) based upon lies and misinformation. Is it possible that the Madrid bombing did remind the Spaniards of what we had gone through, and they decided to take a different (and some would argue more "evolved") approach? Besides, it's been reported that the Spanish people were over 90% opposed to the illegal war in Iraq. Isn't their pulling out a good example of Democracy at work? In Bali, they had a horrible bombing. The Balinese responded by capturing the bomber, but also by trying to understand where the hatred came from. Then again, Bali is not the U.S.A... I await your angry response! :)

To: Ilaine who wrote (129931)	4/23/2004 9:19:43 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

Looking at it in retrospect, I, personally, couldn't possibly blame any Brit from feeling hope that Pearl Harbor would lead to active US engagement in warfare that might somehow take some of the pressure off themselves As I recall, Winston Churchill wrote that he went to bed on Dec 7th "to sleep the sleep of the blessed and the saved" (from memory). By Carl's logic, that means that Winston Churchill would have been perfectly happy to see the United States destroyed, so long as it helped Britain. By the logic of reasonable people, it means something rather different.

To: Ilaine who wrote (129931)	4/24/2004 10:16:34 PM
From: Bilow	Respond to of 281500

Hi CobaltBlue; Re: "Similarly, for Zionist Jews, Israel is engaged in an existential struggle. I don't think that Israelis or Zionist Jews wished injury on the US, but it's not immoral to hope that, having suffered a terrible blow, there might be fellow feeling." So, your position is that Nadine Carroll is an "Israeli or Zionist Jew"? Re: "Many in the US felt that way after the bombing in Madrid, that 3/11 would be Europe's 9/11, that finally Europeans would understand what we are going through." I saw a few posts and articles that expressed that view, but in retrospect, it was just more thought in a long line of wishful thinking. -- Carl