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To: SOROS who wrote (12526)	4/24/2004 3:12:00 AM
From: rubed	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 110194

C'est le declin de l'empire americain. Don't forget that SOROS as it is a long-term occurrence, just like the Roman empire it will take decades - the twin deficits, living beyond the means, imperial overstretch, corruption, ignorance, arrogance. This is not meant to be an attack on my American friends, but just a reminder of the larger dynamic we are witnessing. rube

To: SOROS who wrote (12526)	4/24/2004 12:41:51 PM
From: Steve Lokness	Respond to of 110194

SOROS: Wonderful intelligent post! People don't care - until it is too late. I hope everyone here reads and rereads your post until the full significance sinks in! Steve

To: SOROS who wrote (12526)	4/24/2004 4:34:33 PM
From: NOW	Respond to of 110194

it pays to remember that the move towards removing liberties by a government is ALWAYS a precursor to removing its own citizens liberties.

To: SOROS who wrote (12526)	4/24/2004 5:58:43 PM
From: Rarebird	Respond to of 110194

<They have set up a Homeland Security network that can eventually be directed at ANY American citizen with the same force as a foreign subversive.> Hello! Where have you been? State courts have confirmed that police officers in Louisiana no longer need a search or arrest warrant to conduct a brief search of a home or business. This state court decision was missed by the national US media. Using it as a precedent, five other states followed suit in short order. In Louisiana, and now in five other states (and counting?), the raw political power of "The State" has deprived Americans living there of any and all individual rights enumerated not only in the Constitution of the United States but also in the various State Constitutions as originally manifested. The "judges" in this precedent-setting case actually did quote their "reasons" for this decision. They were following the Patriot Act as passed by Congress! States' "rights" have obviously been "missed" by the judges in Louisiana as well as the other states. Clearly they now all see themselves as taking orders from Washington. That takes the issue straight to the Patriot Act. The Patriot Act (which President Bush named as the key to preventing more 9/11s in his April 13 press conference) tramples the First Amendment - the people's right to exercise freedom of religion, speech and peaceful assembly and "to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." It tramples the Fourth Amendment - the right "to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures" whereby judicial warrants only to be issued upon probable cause and must be specific as to place to be searched and persons or things to be seized. The Fourth Amendment has here clearly been cancelled by these judges who are now on the bench in Louisiana. So have the Fifth, Sixth and Fourteenth amendments - which outline the right to due process, a trial by one's peers, the right to face one's accuser as well as view the evidence against oneself, and to have an attorney. So has the Eighth Amendment - which safeguards the people against excessive fines or cruel and unusual punishment. All of this has been swept aside by the external distraction of Iraq.