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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (48982)4/24/2004 7:00:41 PM
From: LLCF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
< DAK, I caught the tail end of the industrial revolution and while you might think that "good hard work" to do is a good thing>

I in no way judged different types of work in any way... I'm not judging the industrial revolution or the work it produced... your assertion that I think welders, etc etc are 'better' than what you are doing [presumably tapping on a keyboard] is not what I was saying. Some jobs which entail hardwork are dangerous or have other drawbacks as well... I'll leave judging jobs to others, there is plenty of that going on. I said the body has evolved to "do good hard work".. which if it was not clear I could expain as "use your arms and legs [whole body] in a vigorous way" period. And if you DON"T do such, your body will atrophy. It's plain to anyone IMO.

<People don't do more of them just for fun.>

Then they're doing the wrong ones. If you are implying that peole don't exert themselves physically "for fun", then we have different idea's about what 'fun' is, and I think you are speaking for yourself... as people do it all the time, from my definition.

< They choose not to because they like the better pay rate and what they can get.>

That's right, we all make choices.

<Mad Magazine decades ago did a cartoon about the proliferation of cars and how Americans would evolve to have legs and arms as vestigial organs, being shaped like fat bowling pins.>

Wow, they weren't "Mad" after all! LOL

<there's not much that can be done to improve our limited wet chemistry brain power.>

A major source of disagreement between us I think... there is limited 'potential' perhaps, but realization of that potential varies widely IMO.

<Even with Einstein's brainpower, we'll still just be people with infinitesimal memory and speed of recall compared with Google>

Wowa... memory is WAY too broad to make that assertion IMO... and 'speed of recall' is similarly more than debateable. You're talking library books, I'm talking real life. Google can't hold my jockstrap.

<The industrial revolution was fueled by property rights, brainpower, population and civilized processes. Found resources were not the central issue.>

Economic growth of the past had a main driver that will not be available in the future... free resources [limited term, as of course they werent' free... just in the construct used in the world economy they were]. And we disagree... it WAS a HUGE central issue.

<Maybe I'm a dreamer, but there really are CDMA networks around the world and there really is a Globalstar system spraying the joys of CDMA through you.>

Agreed... I don't think you're wrong about CDMA at all... as a QCOM holder [you may remember], the only thing I differ about here is "joy's" perhaps... it's just a tool, it gives me infinitely less 'joy' than I get form sitting on a rock next to the ocean or walking in the woods or the hayfields out back. NOW who's the dreamer!! LOL, dreaming is good.

There are quite a few things which I've dreamed and they became 3D reality. Ideas always precede reality. No ideas = nothing happens.>

<You are welcome to spend your days grunting away in manual labour in Pol Pot's or Mao's agricultural great leaps forward.>

It's occuring to me that your viewpoint of 'hard work' and those who prefer it, or do it, and the 'body vs brain' idea needs some [self] scrutiny. I know it's not a message you want to hear... but it's a message that continues to come at us from all sources, especially science, health levels are decreasing as sedintary lifestyle increases.

DAK



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (48982)4/25/2004 12:45:34 AM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum  Respond to of 74559
 
I'll take the cyberspace revolution, mod cons and freedomso what is it ? we will be supplanted or we become masters of the universe

I'm feeling more and more like an Eloi to serve the new Morlocks... ;o)