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To: maceng2 who wrote (130070)4/29/2004 9:19:41 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
<MQ, you are real stoopid in your one sided view, what are you, some kind of protestant nutball or something??>

PB, there isn't always a valid point of view from one of the sides. A balanced view doesn't mean accepting that there is even an iota of sense in the waco side's ideas.

There is a common idea these days that there are two sides to every story. Well, that's nice to think and is often the case, but sometimes one side is simply a waco thug who needs a bullet through the head.

For example, Taffy Hotene who murdered horrendously a young woman in Glen Innes could recount how maltreated he was as a child and that this was his payback to society. I'm sure Google could give you the gory details. There is no doubt some truth that his childhood was nasty in some important ways. I'm sure the Omagh bombers could regale us with tales of the potato famine and how in 1066 there was payback for the unfair taxes of 320AD imposed by William of Orange as reparations for the 420BC uprising intended to take revenge for the invasion from 8972BC when the Neanderthals tried to defend the Irish homeland after the last ice age. Really, the Omagh bombers and Taffy just need to be removed from the gene pool.

Similarly, Adolf did a very strong line of reasoning on how the Jews needed to be sent to the gas chambers. A balanced view, rather than a one-sided view, would see that he in fact had a good point and his final solution was perhaps not a good solution, but it was not something to dismiss out of hand. I prefer the one-sided view.

It's funny that you automatically assume I'm some kind of Protestant, whether of nutball or other variety. That's akin to King George II's Wild West assertion that "You're either with us or against us", with the implied idea that if you're against us, you're gonna get it! Good and hard. It didn't occur to him that most people around the world were at best indifferent and usually oblivious to him. They are neither for him nor against him and are largely indifferent to him. Of course, if he decides that people are therefore against him, they will do the usual thing and defend themselves. Heck, half the people in the USA are against him!

PB, just because somebody thinks Gerry Adams, his financiers and his mates are a pack of murderous, knee-capping, criminal thugs who would have left the world a better place if they'd been in Hitler's gas chambers instead of Jewish people, doesn't mean they are a Protestant, whether of nutball or other brand. I know the logic is tricky, but it's impeccable. What are you anyway? Some kind of IRA Catholic terrorist nutball?

<The LVF killing of Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams’ nephew in January 1998. >

There was also the killing of IRA "civilians" in Spain. I thought that was unreasonable. I argued with a colleague who thought it was no bad thing. I prefer the Mossad method of capture and prosecution within a trial, where at least there isn't just a death on the streets, with no way of knowing whether there was good cause.

I don't know about Gerry's nephew, but I suspect it was a good bet that he was in on some IRA stuff.

<A fierce campaign of intimidation and abuse of Catholic schoolgirls in Belfast between June and October 2001.
Religious violence, harassment, and intimidation typically flare up during the summer “marching season,” when hard-line Protestants don bowlers and orange sashes and parade through Catholic neighborhoods to celebrate centuries-old battlefield victories. Many Catholics see these parades as provocations.
>

The Catholics should see them as silly old fuddy duddies and ignore them. Centuries-old? Giggle! Why get upset because some people want to dress up in silly hats and orange clothes and parade around?

It's the religious wacos who need the balanced view PB.

The whole business of partition is very simple, as with Taiwan. Have a vote in Northern Ireland and Taiwan and if the majority wants to stay separate, then that's that. Gerry and his IRA mates wanting to force integration with Ireland against the will of most people in Northern Ireland is typical of bossy types. What most people want doesn't matter. What is ethical doesn't matter. What they want does. Welcome to the world of Adolf, Stalin and Saddam.

Of course there are also criminal thug Protestants and they should be caged or removed from the gene pool too. I mostly saw the IRA version and a LOT more of it.

The main thing is that silly, gullible, ignorant Americans have stopped financing murderous IRA people. Mostly anyway.

Mqurice

PS: Do you have a balanced, rather than one-sided point of view, in regard to Osama destroying the Twin Towers? I suppose you think the Moslems had a good point. Similarly in Bali. Those New Zealand and Australian tourists had it coming to them. Same for the Americans [and British, and everyone else] killed in the 911 attacks.