To: i-node who wrote (187127 ) 4/27/2004 5:52:35 PM From: tejek Respond to of 1572362 In fact, I got a 4.0. Congratulations on your first four point. Isn't that special. Sorry, dude, didn't mean to confuse you. That 4.0 is one of many that I've gotten.I don't have to prove it, genius......I studied it last fall. I'm sure at some fine university known for spreading the liberal truth... As I said, prove it. The least you should do is provide a credible link. Here's one for the Kurds: <font color=brown>[Remember you cited that 100k Kurds were killed.]<font color=black> "Another skeptic is Milton Viorst, long-time Middle East correspondent for the New Yorker and author of a dozen books. He visited Kurdish areas in Iraq when the gassing allegations surfaced in 1988 and reported that: "From what I saw, I would conclude that if lethal gas was used, it was not used genocidally--that is, for mass killing. The Kurds compose a fifth of the Iraqi population, and they are a tightly knit community. If there had been large-scale killing, it is likely they would know and tell the world. But neither I nor any Westerner I encountered heard such allegations. Nor did Kurdish society show discernible signs of tension. The northern cities, where the men wear Kurdish turbans and baggy pants, were as bustling as I had ever seen them."" <snip> "A third dissenting voice, oddly enough, is the CIA. Its October 2002 dossier, "Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction Programs," identifies only 10 instances of reported Iraqi use of chemical weapons, and none of these were directed specifically at the Kurds. All occurred during the Iran-Iraq war; seven were directed only against Iranians, and in three cases, including Halabja, the victims included both Iranians and Kurds, thus supporting Iraq's contention that it used mustard gas only in military operations against Iran.[12]Significantly, the CIA claims only 20,000 casualties--dead and wounded combined--in Iraq's alleged campaign against the Kurds, as opposed to Human Rights Watch's assertion of 50,000 to 100,000 deaths. Given the tendency of the U.S. government to magnify claims of Saddam's criminality, the CIA's estimates should be interpreted as maximum possible figures." <snip> "And, incredibly, Human Rights Watch makes assertions of genocide despite the extreme paucity of physical evidence. Of the three exhumed grave sites, one yielded 26 bodies of men and boys executed by firing squad.[14] Certainly this was an atrocity, but this leaves 99,974 bodies unaccounted for. The other two grave sites--revealing only five separately-buried individuals who had died from unknown causes--supplied no evidence supporting allegations of genocide.[15]"mediamonitors.net As for the Iraqi war: "The war claimed at least 300,000 Iranian lives and injured more than 500,000, out of a total population which by the war's end was nearly 60 million. "EDIT .[Its purported that 250k Iraqis died during that same war.] <font color=brown>[You cited 500k Iraqis.]<font color=black>iranchamber.com I know I am one of your few links to reality so when I have time I will get an update of how many Iraqis Saddam tortured and killed........but like with the Kurds and the Iranians it was nowhere near the numbers you cited. Not to worry........we are used to GOP lies! And yes, you are a total and complete arse!