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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Greg or e who wrote (17314)	5/1/2004 5:27:31 PM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 28931

Did it ever cross your mind that this would be the proper way to interpret a document written in ancient Greek? The Greeks did much more than do you the favor of preserving the Old Testement for you , but also did you the favor of advancing the concept " Logos" to play endless word games with , and which preachers & theologians have had a field day. And it was ever so nice of them to be so tolerant of thought and deed to save these documents for you ? How wickedly clever of these early church fathers to try and hide these roots and wage centuries of persecution in the name of this latest " Christ?" Nothing really changed even with the second coming , come and went . so --->In The Beginning was the WORD....agreed? And the "WORD "was originally written in and expounded in---------->the Helen/Pagan Greek ? Why then was the first principal of Christianity then to follow almost immediately later and persist for centuries : "Do Unto Others, Before They Do Unto You ?" (Ah so ...as the Chinese might say ) ;-)

To: Greg or e who wrote (17314)	5/1/2004 5:50:03 PM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 28931

Let's examine once again here ...what did the Helene/Pagans miss hundreds of years before that Christians & St Paul later discovered in the "teachings" & "revelations" that was unique ...remembering that Helenism swept through not only the Judaic world around 300Bc, but over an entirely HUGE area. This had no small effect Greg upon that world, with Greek Culture , Greek Government , Greek Literature,Greek Philosophy/Epistemology, Greek Religion , Greek Language , Greek Architecture ...etc etc. The Helene's and the Egyptian/Roman/Indo~Persians all had earlier advanced these ideas in their forms and rituals, long before Paul or whichever Jesus of your imagination: a single supreme God who made and controls the universe Gods who ascend and descend from their home up in heaven a soul that survives death eternal life after death, with torment for sinners; reward for the worthy the Logos, which early Christians explicitly identify as the Holy Spirit Gods who are Sons of the supreme God, often born of a mortal woman prophecy -- made and fulfilled miracles -- stuff like raising the dead, healing the sick, restoring sight to the blind, turning water into wine worshiped Gods who died and came back to life were personal religions entered into voluntarily via initiation ceremonies that involved purification by water baptism that reenacted the God's death and rebirth taught that initiation gave believers rebirth and salvation celebrated with ceremonies of food and drink that reenacted a holy meal established by the God had teachings that brought the faithful closer to God worshiped Gods with the miraculous power to heal illness * Perhaps they all would have been much better off persuing the ideal of Democracy while spending more time in the Gymnasium & Public Libraries , than retrograding back to fundamentalism in the temple/mosque later? And the fantacism which led to the destruction of so many simple lives and persecutions which the Christian terrorists took up with a vengence later after they took over Rome & Byzantium? How little things really were changed ....but the arts of torture did become more perfected as the centuries wore on after most of the Libraries had been burned down.<g> (Democracy did have a way of resurfacing though , eventually ...God Bless the eternal ----->"Logos") ;-)