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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (9751)4/28/2004 7:04:35 AM
From: rrufff  Respond to of 20773
 
We have had 5 posts in a row, from The Brusseled Sprout, someone who sits in his basement and comes up with very strange theories. These posts have been reflective of his hatred for Israel and his beliefs that Jews control the world. Are these the type of posts that are appropriate for a Moderate Forum?

For those who don't follow this whack job elsewhere, here is a fine post of his where he outlines his latest theory of 9/11, as well as some other mystical historical meanderings of an insane poster. Note that he had previously linked France, Russia and Israel as 9/11 conspiratorial parties.

Message 20038339

Don, I've got good news for you (and the rest) today!! I've finally made it... I PIECED IT ALL TOGETHER. Here's my latest overhaul of 911 --my definitive theory on what really happened on that fateful day:

First, I dismiss the possibility for the WTC towers to have collapsed like a shattered house of cards just because an airliner hit them.... Which means that "controlled demolition" was involved. Whether they were "mini-nukes" or something more conventional is a detail --seismic evidence and NYC firefighters/cops dying from radioactive exposure will eventually be disclosed to (dis)prove it.

Now, the above premise means that you are right in assuming that responsibility for 911 reaches the higher echelons of the US executive.... Yet, as far as I'm concerned, I think the buck stops with Cheney --US Vice President Dick Cheney was the real brains behind the whole scheme. BTW, it's a fixture with US politics for the Veep to be a smooth operator of sorts, a Fixer-in-Chief so to speak --from LBJ to Al Gore (and his "BoNY" shenanigans with Eltsine and family...). And who knows if Theodore Roosevelt had anything to do with the assassination of McKinley, back in 1901?

Now, let me elaborate on the scheme itself: it was not a very convoluted one. As I always claimed, it was indeed devised --and sold to Prez Bush-- as a regular hijacking of four civilian airliners. That is, the whole operation should have wound up as a bloodless, false-flag sting --pretty much like the London/Ariana hijack.

However, that was only part of the story: a subplot was secretly plugged into the original scheme.... A subplot only known and contrived by Cheney and his inner circle. The subplot somehow consisted of hijacking the hijackers themselves and turning them into suicide terrorists.

So, it's quite possible that my initial hypothesis of Tajik hijackers sneaked into the US to do the hijacking is right. Since it was a cointelpro scheme that got the greenlight of the Veep himself nobody --within CIA, FBI, NSA,...-- had any authority to foil it.

Now let's fast-forward to September 11, 2001: the heavies of the US administration are all in the know --they know today is not your best day to travel by air across the US... Some big intelligence plot is afoot... So NSA Rice buzzes her pal Willie Brown: "Hey Willie, forget about flying over to... stay home and watch TV instead!" Secr. of State C. Powell is even more cautious: on that day, he's out of the country... somewhere in South America --did someone clue him in on the bombing of the State Dept. that day?

And where's President Bush? Well, Bush has always felt suspicious about his Dark Eminence Cheney... He knows the guy is capable of hiding a few cards up his sleeve. So Bush can't be outside the country that day --far too risky. I mean, if things turned awry --which they did-- people might say, how come the prez was abroad on that very day? Bush knew about it! etc. On the other hand, Prez Bush didn't want to --or was fast-talked into-- be(ing) (un)available. Bush wasn't at the ready in his War Room, or aboard Air Force One,... No, Bush was conspicuously "unavailable" chatting with children in a one-horse-town.... That means that, when the hijack crisis broke out, Bush wittingly counted himself out: his (Presidential) authority was handed over to the Vice President. And that was the masterstroke of Mastermind Cheney: whereas the Prez was technically unavailable, the Vice President was, for his part, in the thick of it: Cheney was on the ball, most likely at some USAF base.

When all four airliners were hijacked by some Tajik(Arab?) patsies, Cheney --temporarily vested with Presidential authority-- ordered USAF fighters to shoot down all four hijacked airliners --lest they should be used as flying bombs against US targets/cities.

Thereafter, Cheney set in motion the aforementioned subplot: four bombs were detonated at four high-profile targets that will later be pictured as the terrorists' targets....

Of course, since these targets were never hit by anything but rather "bombed inside out", doctored footages of the action, the gagging of eyewitnesses, and a news blackout were implemented. The Pentagon was an easy matter to deal with since all military personnel are already bound by duty to shut up. But the WTC was a thorny one: civilian lawsuits and rumor would reveal what really happened --hence the need to collapse both towers (and WTC-7) to dispell embarrassing witnesses and THE LACK of evidence, that is, the lack of aircraft debris.

At that point, the 911 conspirators were left with two separate story lines: the hijacked airliners that were duly "intercepted" by the USAF, and the "simultaneous" bombings in NY and Washington.... It was just a matter of meshing it all together... All Cheney had to do was to round off the corners so as to squeeze the peg of the hijacked airliners into the round hole of the bombing of NY/Wash. But then, what other story/scenario could have reasonably been told to the American people? The hijacked airliners HAD TO have been used as suicide flying bombs..... QED



To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (9751)4/28/2004 2:50:53 PM
From: rrufff  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20773
 
Have you been away from the computer?

MILITANTS IN EUROPE OPENLY CALL FOR JIHAD AND THE RULE OF ISLAM
April 26, 2004

The New York Times reports: "The call to jihad is rising in the streets of Europe, and is being answered, counterterrorism officials say.

In this former industrial town north of London, a small group of young Britons whose parents emigrated from Pakistan after World War II have turned against their families' new home. They say they would like to see Prime Minister Tony Blair dead or deposed and an Islamic flag hanging outside No. 10 Downing Street.

They swear allegiance to Osama bin Laden and his goal of toppling Western democracies to establish an Islamic superstate under Shariah law, like Afghanistan under the Taliban. They call the Sept. 11 hijackers the 'Magnificent 19' and regard the Madrid train bombings as a clever way to drive a wedge into Europe.

On Thursday evening, at a tennis center community hall in Slough, west of London, their leader, Sheik Omar Bakri Mohammad, spoke of his adherence to Osama bin Laden. If Europe fails to heed Mr. bin Laden's offer of a truce — provided that all foreign troops are withdrawn from Iraq in three months — Muslims will no longer be restrained from attacking the Western countries that play host to them, the sheik said.

'All Muslims of the West will be obliged,' he said, to 'become his sword' in a new battle. Europeans take heed, he added, saying, 'It is foolish to fight people who want death — that is what they are looking for.'

On working-class streets of old industrial towns like Crawley, Luton, Birmingham and Manchester, and in the Arab enclaves of Germany, France, Switzerland and other parts of Europe, intelligence officials say a fervor for militancy is intensifying and becoming more open