To: zonder who wrote (187327 ) 4/29/2004 9:23:59 AM From: i-node Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572637 I would be interested to hear your opinion on just how acceptable it is to kill 10,000+ civilians (not to mention the soldiers dead fighting a foreign invader), especially in a war of choice the shaky premises of which are already proven wrong. If 10,000+ civilians have to be killed to liberate 22 million people, where the dictator's policy is resulting directly in the deaths of 5,000 innocent children PER MONTH, it seems like a no-brainer to me. Now, the situation in Iraq was more than this, but this answer certainly is adequate to justify the invasion on moral grounds. However, as I've pointed out on this thread several times, the above conditions are not necessary or prerequisite to our action. One has to understand why they hate us. The Left doesn't get it (with the lone exception of Tom Friedman). They hate us because we have freedom and they don't. It is that simple. We have dignity, they don't. We have the opportunity to make good lives for ourselves. They don't. Bush has [properly] determined that, while Saddam had minimal involvement with 9/11, his removal is the key to providing future security for our nation. The deaths of those civilians, while unfortunate, had to happen in order that we might install a democracy in the region. This democracy, over a period of 30 years, will clearly create a "domino effect" which will free the people of the entire region. This is evident. By doing so, over that same 30 years, anti-Americanism will steadily decline and the threat of terrorism against us will decline with it. 10,000 civilians is a small price to pay for the benefits to be received. It is too bad, but it had to happen. This war has been fought, from the United States' perspective, in the most human conceivable way. Yes, in the middle of the war the people of Iraq are not happy. You wouldn't be, either. But when it is over, those people will recognize that Bush liberated them, their freedom is entirely atributable to the actions of America, and in the end, that's all that will matter. I recognize this isn't your vision. But you asked for my opinion and you got it.