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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Greg or e who wrote (17318)4/29/2004 10:42:10 AM
From: Solon  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 28931
 
I will speak slowly for you:

1). You stated that All humans have an innate sense of right and wrong. This was your "proof" (LOL!) for the existence of God...your particular God, even! ;-)

2). You made it clear that millions of Germans were being immoral.

3). It follows either that Germans are not human, or that their "innate sense" is from a different "God", or that your "proofs" are ridiculous.

You were quite willing to grant that the German morality was based on their "opinion" while yours was based on some "innate sense". Perhaps then it is thinking about right and wrong that gives humanity so much trouble? Lord love a duck.

Perhaps you are completely unaware that you have tied yourself into so many knots that even a sailor would be helpless to extricate you! Your flippancy does not untie the knots. Nor does whistling in the dark make the wind stop blowing.

"Trying to make a document that explicitly grounds "inherent rights" in God into some sort of atheist manifesto is.... well; you can't be serious?"

There is no atheist manifesto. Get real! The Constitution does not mention God, and as I said...it is not written by God. It is written by humans.

If God writes a document, then we can entertain your proposition.

I repeat:

"Sorry, it is the State which grants those rights and it is the State that provides police and military to safeguard those rights. The Constitution grants those rights and the Constitution was written by men after much thought and effort. It is true that they left "Creator" in the declaration of Independence, and it is true that many of them were Deists. But whether Jefferson inserted it in the Declaration for conscientious or for pragmatic reasons is irrelevant. The main thing is that we DID insert it. It was a human OPINION; and it got us past the arbitrary and capricious rule by priests and kings--both representing the desire of some or another "God"."