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To: Stan who wrote (37045)	4/29/2004 1:13:40 PM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 39621

Stan, you're the man. I agree with your last post when you say; "the Scriptures teach that Israel must come to a place of national repentance and acknowledgment of their Messiah before they are placed in such a position." That day is yet to come but I am confident that by God's grace and in His time, it will. Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplication; and they shall look unto me whom they have pierced; and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his first-born."

To: Stan who wrote (37045)	4/29/2004 1:24:49 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

"I believe the Scriptures teach that Israel must come to a place of national repentance and acknowledgment of their Messiah before they are placed in such a position. This is the ethnos who receive the kingdom." There is NO ethnos that "receives the kingdom" but whosoever will through faith in Christ. Your idea of the Kingdom of God is a kingdom geography and stones rathe than the biblical idea of Spirit and faith. You have been convinced by the theology of Darby and Skofield that the End Times has to do with Talmudic Judaism rather than with the Israel of God--the Christian nation! All the promises of God are ye an amen in Christ, not in Talmudic Judaism. The people who follow who reject Christ and follow Talmudic Judaism todday have NO biblical promises. As for your contention that I bypassed an examination of Acts 1:6,7, I don't agree with you. I anwered in depth and in scriptural and historical context. It may be that you failed to understand what I was saying. The Apostles had the Pharisaical notion that the Kingdom of God being established by Jesus was a worldly kingdom rahter than the Kingdom of God defined by Jesus in the numberous Kingdom Parables in Matthew and other Gospels. Jesus simply told them: "it is not for you tot know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power." In other words only God knows pricely the time when Kingdom will be established. You bring your preconceived ideas of a worldly kingdom into the context of this verse rather than a three dimensional scritptural concept of the Kingdom of God defined by Christ in the Gospels. You have been convinced that this Kingdom that the Apostles and Chrsit is speaking of is a worldly carnal kingdom in geogrpahical Palestine/Israel. Beyond the parable definitions of the Kingdom of God we have the Holy Spirit inspired definition: "the Kingdom of God is not meat and drink but righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit". I believe that you need to do an in depth study of the Kingdom of God in Gospels. It is the New Testament that gives clarity and understaning to the old. The New Testament scriptures are the only infallible interpretation of the old.

To: Stan who wrote (37045)	4/29/2004 1:43:20 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Understanding the Kingdom of God through the parables: John the Baptist said: "Kingdom ...is at hand" Did he mean it or did he really believe that it was thousands of years in the future for those who hate God and his new covenant? Matthew, chapter 3 1: In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judea, 2: "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." 3: For this is he who was spoken of by the prophet Isaiah when he said, "The voice of one crying in the wilderness: Prepare the way of the Lord, make his paths straight."