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To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (37086)	5/1/2004 8:31:27 PM
From: Berry Picker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

RE>>Aside from those quotes you list, what criteria do we use, as humans, to determine whether G-d << Apart from the revealed word of God we as humans can know little about God. In Athens in the day of Paul there was an idol erected to "the unknown god" or better the "unknowable" god Surely a god that is unknowable become greater in power and character than the god that is knowable - so it is safe to presume that this 'god' was likely greater than the others - so great it was humanly impossible to know him. This is what the apostle Paul had to say about that!! Acts 17:23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. The only 'god' that was unknown to them was the true and real one. We - as Christians - know Him and plainly declare the truth about Him. Only those elected unto eternal life will hear us. John 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep. Men who are ordained to eternal life hear God's word and know that it is from God and true. Some will hear today - some may not hear until later. Those who are not elected to eternal life will never hear. John began his gospel with these words: John 1:1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 ¶ And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. The things of God are not determined by the mind of man. In fact - even the bible is closed to many who read it. Have you ever prayed to God for understanding and then read the bible? Until you do - I can assure you - you will flounder in the dark. The things of God are not determined by the mind of man. Brian

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (37086)	5/1/2004 8:48:05 PM
From: Berry Picker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Len - God's favor may manifest in 'wealth' but the things of value in this life are not what are important. Jesus said this: Matthew 16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? Is it then 'health' ?? Paul - the greatest apostle - suffered from physical blindness. Ironic that God would literally 'blind him be the light' Paul saw Jesus after he inhabited a glorified state - that glory struck Paul blind - he regained his eye sight for a time - but later digressed - Paul healed many but the Lord refused to heal Paul's eyes. 2 Corinthians 12:8 For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me. Paul realized exactly what he was favoured with however. 9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. God's favour can be manifested in temporal wealth but even Job -whom the bible records as being made very rich by God was made poor for a season to prove that he was interested in God for the eternal wealth that is found only in Christ. Oldest book in the bible: Job 19:25 For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth: Latter day = time of Christ You would do well to read the book of Job - it is about this very subject.. Job found favor with God - satan accused Job of being only interested in the worldly wealth - God took it away and proves Job then God grants to Job double wealth after the hour of trial. You would do better to read the bible than debate about it. Brian