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To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (46032)5/1/2004 5:13:22 AM
From: IQBAL LATIF  Respond to of 50167
 
"If we had such a bomb — and we ask God that we have such a bomb soon — we would not hesitate for a moment to strike Israeli towns, such as Eilat, Tel Aviv and others," Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi

The extremists being protected by some newly converts zealots here on this thread are an affront to basic notion of humankind. Much as I personally feel sorry for these converts as I can see the pain of 'circumcision' ( grown up giving into mutilation of ‘genital’ is a great sacrifice for sake of ideology- I respect the guy and don't if he is uncircumcised convert and have not yet gone through the ultimate ‘test’ that will give him reach to 70 houries- considering his ‘extremist zeal’ will strongly counsel to take up this final operation) written all over their posts I can see what they really are looking for, the mentality of these people and their lack of restraint is more than adequately represented by the statement above. Mad dog Gaddafi has been recently defanged and his activities of MWD closed down he was exactly pursuing this option, Saddam had similar aims, it is these tyrannies within Arab World who if given an option would not hesitate to use weapons of mass destruction and cause havoc, retaliation will wipe out Arab societies the way we know them, here on this thread we represent voice of reason, we think collective Arab political blunders cannot be made responsibility of only one party in this dispute that is Israel, for me a Jew is as much a great human being as is a Muslim or a Hindu, now here is the root of problem, they hold every single Israeli responsible for their plight and hence the mass retribution policy that dates back to five decades, that is mass suicide bombing, Munich was pre Bush so was Lockerbie or so was plan to blow Pan Am over Israel, when was the last time we ever heard reason taking over blood; I consider these act as of terror as ultimate low for a humankind. Never reconciled with them in hinterland of my country as I was growing up, I always believed that ‘Love conquers all, hatred begets hatred;’ Israeli- Palestinian conflict is said to be at the heart of this present war the basic error of judgements and out of context historical mistrust of Jews have made Arab street alien to idea of peace, some bridges need to build between two very enlightened communities and blood has to be taken out of the equation. That is the purpose of this thread. I think the real enemy is Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi and all the extremists on other side if it is Sharon so be it but my job is to take care of my side not theirs, it has to be other side to work on peace and they should clear these muddy waters..

Co-habitation and co-existence is the way out, that would mean stoppage of all kind of violence, acceptance of their very weak position of bargaining and rebuilding a process through which peace is secured for common man, the problem of fighting to death with blood is nonsense, those who send kids to one way ticket to death were asked by Tim Sebastian on Hard Talks BBC How many children you have; he said three; Tim asked him have you send anyone of them for martyrdom, the Hamas guy who was recently sent to Allah quick time just looked into space. Arafat own daughters lives in Paris where common Palestinians are just cannon fodder for this war of hatred, it is this leadership that has to go. Te converts here want that era to continue because most converts are extremists in their ideology.

<An audiotape attributed to alleged top al-Qaeda operative Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi on Friday claimed al-Qaeda planned to destroy Jordan’s intelligence headquarters, but not in a chemical attack as charged by Amman, and warned its government of a "bitter future". He accused Amman of "creating an outcry and presenting the Jordanian people as a victim targeted at the hands of terrorism ... in order to hide the sordid face of the Jordanian intelligence services." "If we had such a bomb — and we ask God that we have such a bomb soon — we would not hesitate for a moment to strike Israeli towns, such as Eilat, Tel Aviv and others," he added.



To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (46032)5/1/2004 7:13:32 AM
From: Raymond Duray  Respond to of 50167
 
Hello Iqbal,

Re: The general in charge of US military operations in Iraq appealed to Pakistan, Morocco and Tunisia on Friday to send troops to join American-led forces in Iraq, saying "this needs to be less of an American occupation."

There is absolutely no one who should bail George Bush out from the completely horrendous mess that he has created. He should be hanged as a war criminal, and Iraq returned to its rightful owners.



To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (46032)5/1/2004 8:59:10 AM
From: IQBAL LATIF  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 50167
 
''Gen John Abizaid the general in charge of US military operations in Iraq appealed to Pakistan, Morocco and Tunisia on Friday to send troops to join American-led forces in Iraq, saying "this needs to be less of an American occupation." ''

This is a natural course of events and that has been highlighted in the following post, although we have had several times in last few years made the point which Abizaid is highlighting now, it will happen under tutelage of OIC and happen very soon..analysis is all about natural application, the forces of optimism that we represent will win because our intentions and goals are noble, the forces of darkness shall collapse because their intentions are ahuman and backward looking.

<<Disciplined Armies have lot of work cut out for them in near future as changes happen in Middle East, this is not the last you will hear about Pakistan Army as an ally to US, let this be clear whatever that lunatic right-winger tell Carl, the fact is that US army closeness and alliance with Pakistan Army is very close and for rightful reasons, as Rice had recently declared that Alqaeda could not be crippled without northern hinterland help and Afghanistan could have been attacked by planes flying out of Pathan kot as the Indians wanted, for Islamic world disputes and quarrels of oil US have two key allies one is the Turkish secular Army other the Pakistani Islamic Army with huge influence of US stamped on it, and now they are taking a lesson and instead of ignoring them engaging them, helping US to sort out the sore points and sanctuaries of jihadi elements. >>

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