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To: quehubo who wrote (130908)5/2/2004 9:36:46 AM
From: Rascal  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Let the darn Sunni General and troops take care of their own in Sunni areas.

Hi Q.

Am I wrong? I thought Sadr was a Shia like Sistani.
And that the Shia were oppressed by the Sunni's.
So Bringing in a Sunni General to put down the insurgents who are Shia seems like pot stirring.

What do you think?

Rascal @SomeBaathistAreSunnisNoShiasareBaathists.com



To: quehubo who wrote (130908)5/2/2004 10:45:26 AM
From: Hawkmoon  Respond to of 281500
 
Hawk, what do you think of our bringing back an Iraqi general with some of the troops to resolve the standoff in Falluja?

I don't have a problem with it.. I'm not keen on his having been a Special Republican Guard General.. But the goal is to make the Iraqis responsible for their own security and law and order.

He may be in charge at a local level, but he'll be required to abide by the standards of the CPA and any new Iraqi government.

US troops must be taken out of the role of being policemen as soon a practicable. We're there to preserve the sovereign integrity of the Iraqi state, to guard the borders and assist local authorities with any major internal challenges (such as Sadr).

But we definitely both agree that disbanding the army completely was not the thing to do.. Iraq really needs trained and dedicated police right now, more than they need an Army... And example could be found in the Panamanian National Police formed after the dissoluton of the PDF in 1989.

We should have detained, disarmed, and established dossiers on all of them, including addresses and family ties.. Then we should have vetted a select number of them for recruitment into newly organized units, trained according to Western standards, potentially as para-military units combining police duties with military training..

I just hope we are not avoiding some short term pain that will cost more long term.

Well, we have to trust them to organize themselves.. It is their country, after all.. But we hold the power of the purse-strings for now.. And we have $18 billion that we DON'T HAVE ANY OBLIGATION to provide to them, should they fail to "play ball".

Hawk

Hawk