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To: h0db who wrote (130913)	5/1/2004 11:14:04 PM
From: Sarmad Y. Hermiz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

There is nothing shocking about that. This is the basic reason why the invasion of Iraq had to be justified on the basis of wmd. The idea is that America is defending itself, so therefor it is justified in killing as many iraqi's as it takes. And there is no justification for Iraqi's to defend themselves. So if they are caught resisting, it's OK to torture or kill them. And that is why all those web pages linking Iraq to alqaeda keep popping up. It is so the brainless gullibles can justify killing 10,000 Iraqi civilians on the basis of "well, they deserved it. Nobody attacks America and gets away with it".

To: h0db who wrote (130913)	5/2/2004 1:07:55 AM
From: Bilow	Respond to of 281500

Hi h0db; Re: "Sarmad, even more shocking, three of those seven identified as brutalizing Iraqi prisoners are women." What's shocking about that? Have you ever met a woman? -- Carl

To: h0db who wrote (130913)	5/2/2004 6:16:47 AM
From: Elsewhere	Respond to of 281500

Torture at Abu Ghraib by Seymour M. Hersh American soldiers brutalized Iraqis. How far up does the responsibility go? New Yorker May 2, 2004 Issue of 2004-05-10 Posted 2004-04-30 newyorker.com [The URL you posted is probably fleeting. For posterity the full article data above.]

To: h0db who wrote (130913)	5/2/2004 1:01:46 PM
From: Sam	Respond to of 281500

Captain Robert Shuck, Frederick’s military attorney, closed his defense at the Article 32 hearing last month by saying that the Army was “attempting to have these six soldiers atone for its sins.” Similarly, Gary Myers, Frederick’s civilian attorney, told me that he would argue at the court-martial that culpability in the case extended far beyond his client. “I’m going to drag every involved intelligence officer and civilian contractor I can find into court,” he said. “Do you really believe the Army relieved a general officer because of six soldiers? Not a chance.”