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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (131002)	5/2/2004 12:56:18 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I'm not sure your speculation about something that didn't actually happen is a "simple fact"- although I appreciate your attempt to cast your opinion as fact, very clever. A fact, I think, is something real, or known to be real. You might think it very likely that things would have turned out the way you speculate they would have turned out, but I do not think that is a fact. If you disagree about this, we'll just have to disagree, because no amount of argument on your part is going to convince me that your opinions are facts. FWIW I don't happen to think my opinions are facts either. Improving human rights in your opinion required doing something about Saddam. Other people might have a different opinion, and those other people might point to the problems in Iraq right now, and the kill rate of Iraqis this last month, and wonder a bit about how "improved" human rights are now. Sometimes "doing something" makes things worse than they already are, and I think reasonable people could have suspected that an invasion of Iraq might make things worse, rather than better, for the Iraqis, and for the US. But your deep concern for human rights is noted, and I'm very glad you heart is in the right place.