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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: stockman_scott who wrote (19997)	5/3/2004 1:59:06 AM
From: CalculatedRisk	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

The Nightmare at Abu Ghraib nytimes.com Published: May 3, 2004 The American military made a strange and ill-starred decision when it chose to incarcerate Iraqis in Abu Ghraib, the prison that had become a byword for torture under Saddam Hussein and a symbol of everything the invasion of Iraq was supposed to end. As United States officials have known for months, some of the American soldiers brought their own version of sadism to the site. Now that the rest of the world knows as well, the Bush administration will have to do more than denounce the scandal as the work of a few bad apples. Excerpts: The theory that these horrific acts were committed by a few renegade soldiers has been undercut by charges that the men and women shown in the pictures were actually working at the direction of military intelligence officers. General Karpinski told The Times that military intelligence controlled the cellblock where the abuses occurred and seemed eager to portray herself and the guards under her command — all reservists — as scapegoats. More: Terrorists like Osama bin Laden have always intended to use their violence to prod the United States and its allies into demonstrating that their worst anti-American propaganda was true. Abu Ghraib was an enormous victory for them, and it is unlikely that any response by the Bush administration will wipe its stain from the minds of Arabs. The invasion of Iraq, which has already begun to seem like a bad dream in so many ways, cannot get much more nightmarish than this.

To: stockman_scott who wrote (19997)	5/3/2004 11:19:42 AM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 81568

Newsweek says Kerry is now vetting Wes Clark as a VP. If the Bushies keep obsessing on war records, they're going to get TWO Silver Star winners to run against. Kerry is also said to like Bayh, Richardson and Vilsack. Vilsack as it turns out is a two-fer. He is gov of Iowa but grew up in western Pennsylvania which is a fierce battleground area bordering Ohio. No matter who he picks I hope he gives Clark DOD or Secretary Of State and usesw him on the campaign trail as well. Edwards and Gephardt too. The more the merrier. Pick out a whole top cabinet to campaign.