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To: Ilaine who wrote (131178)	5/3/2004 4:44:43 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

<I have no idea whey you did not see women's cards in the Holocaust Museum, but expect it was because you took your card from the men's box. I take my cards from the women's box and have women every time.> CB, there was no women's box at the time. I assumed they were just getting organized and for some reason did them for men [maybe men rate more highly in Jewish culture as in many cultures]. Hmmm, it had been open for a few years already [in 1999]. Cyberspace again: ushmm.org I suppose I thought Emily might like a booklet about a woman [I can't recall]. I tend to notice things like "no women" so made a bit of an issue of it with the attendant to find out why. I got no good answer [but just assumed it was one of those things - nothing's perfect]. 1940 was when things got going. Late 1939 was just the first invasion. Dachau was not an extermination camp in the 1930s. Cyberspace and Google are great: holocaust-history.org <The first crematorium was erected in 1940, on the North-West corner of the camp, and can only be reached over a small footbridge. <photo 6> The ovens are housed in a wooden shed surrounded by a grove of trees. <photo 7> The well-concealed site was carefully chosen, and further isolated from the main camp by a large drainage ditch, the camp wall, a barbed wire fence, and a large ditch with running water. <photo 8> <photo 9> <photo 10> It is quite impossible even today to see the old crematorium from the camp, and many visitors miss it altogether even when walking within a few yards of it on the path to the new crematorium. <photo 47> By early 1942, the death rate outstripped the capacity of the old crematorium originally built by Topf & Söhne. The manufacturer's name is quite visible on the doors of the furnaces. <photo 11> <photo 12> Plans were drawn up in April, 1942 for a more efficient four-furnace crematory which, from its early planning days, incorporated five gas chambers. 14 <photo 13> <photo 14> <photo 15> On July 23, 1942, the order was issued from the SS Headquarters in Berlin to commence construction of the crematorium at a cost of RM150,000. 15 <photo 16> > Fast forward to today. I wonder how long the Islamic Jihadists will be kept in captivity, without trial, without human rights etc. There are a LOT of them. Give the War on Terror a few years and this could be the problem: <On Wednesday the first concentration camp is to be opened in Dachau with an accommodation for 5000 persons. All Communists and -- where necessary -- Reichsbanner and Social Democratic functionaries who endanger state security are to be concentrated here, as in the long run it is not possible to keep individual functionaries in the state prisons without overburdening these prisons, and on the other hand these people cannot be released because attempts have shown that they persist in their efforts to agitate and organize as soon as they are released. > Sounds familiar? The Supreme Court is dithering over jurisdiction. I think the cash flow for lawyers will dictate that there is jurisdiction [call me a cynic] and that habeas corpus is required. How are human rights in China going? American diplomats whining about human rights in China would be laughed out of town now. Iraq is now part of the USA, with Bremer appointed Viceroy, as the Cow, led by the USA has conquered it, other than a few, ahem, terrorists [and whatever other names are used to describe the various opponents to occupation], so we colonials are watching to see how we'll be treated when our turn comes for interrogation. It looks a lot better than Saddam's methods, and Uday's. In fact, it looks a lot better than most! Even a police cell in downtown Auckland could be more violent than a stupid female poking fun at a penis. I'm surprised that people seem surprised that Iraqi prisoners aren't always treated according to civilized rules. We all know how barbarous plenty of Americans are, so in the quiet of a prison cell they aren't going to mellow. USA military training [as seen on tv] involves lots of swearing and shouting and abusing and dehumanizing of the enemy [maybe I have the wrong impression]. Then, getting into the mess of conflict with dead and maimed friends around, the pleasantries of life are no doubt left aside. The elusive world of human rights! Mqurice