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To: epicure who wrote (131218)5/4/2004 12:50:19 AM
From: Dennis O'Bell  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
You've got to be kidding. Who wants America to lose the war ?

There's no need to "explain" what people are thinking. One can clearly see it from the endless posts gleefully spamming SI with every minor setback in whatever is going on in Iraq. Journalists have long since run out of synonyms in their well worn Roget's. Quagmire, Spiraling Out Of Control, Cycle of Violence, Growing Concern... it's long since time to make up a Mad Magazine "How to write a newspaper article on Iraq" with those multiple choice fill in the blanks on a skeleton of an article, and about as much useful content.

It's the great benefit of freedom of speech. No need to be a mind reader.



To: epicure who wrote (131218)5/4/2004 12:57:16 AM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
You've got to be kidding. Who wants America to lose the war?

Then let's phrase it this way.. Who wants America to win?

Certainly not the Islamists..

I am sure some people here think a win isn't possible, given the rather unbelievable objective our administration had, but that is nowhere near wanting America to lose.

Listen.. the opposite of winning is losing. It's a zero-sum game.. We either have democracy, or we don't.

I don't see any middle ground.. Certainly not with the demographic pressures that are rapidly building up throughout the region.

And what we're losing is the one major opportunity we've had in the past 80 years to try and inject democratic reforms into a region dominated by totalitarian and non-democratic regimes.

The world is losing X.. the entire world. Because without a global effort and unified will to mandate that governments in the muslim world be accountable at the ballot box, then we're going to see one form of corrupt and relatively benign totalitarianism superceded by a far more militant version..

Hawk