To: h0db who wrote (131296 ) 5/4/2004 2:05:59 AM From: Ilaine Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 You never heard of Ansar Al Islam? How about Ayman al-Zawahiri? There is a good reason that I didn't post links to demonstrate that Ansar Al Islam was allied with Saddam, and that's because that ground is well trodden on this thread. Nadine:Message 19945932 Jochen:Message 19943014 Dolinar:Message 19945959 From the article cited by Dolinar: >>The Kurdish intelligence officials I spoke to were careful not to oversell their case; they said that they have no proof that Ansar al-Islam was ever involved in international terrorism or that Saddam's agents were involved in the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. But they do have proof, they said, that Ansar al-Islam is shielding Al Qaeda members, and that it is doing so with the approval of Saddam's agents. . . . . The real leader, these officials say, is an Iraqi who goes by the name Abu Wa'el, and who, like the others, spent a great deal of time in bin Laden's training camps. But he is also, they say, a high-ranking officer of the Mukhabarat. One senior official added, "A man named Abu Agab is in charge of the northern bureau of the Mukhabarat. And he is Abu Wa'el's control officer." . . . . I asked him if he was sure that Abu Wa'el was on Saddam's side. "He's an employee of the Mukhabarat," Qassem said. "He's the actual decision-maker in the group"?Ansar al-Islam?"but he's an employee of the Mukhabarat." According to the Kurdish intelligence officials, Abu Wa'el is not in American hands; rather, he is still with Ansar al-Islam. American officials declined to comment.newyorker.com Plenty more where that came from. Sorry that we sometimes go too fast for newbies, but we expect you'll actually make the effort to get up to speed.