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To: carranza2 who wrote (42094)5/4/2004 11:05:10 AM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793743
 
WHAT TO DO IN IRAQ?:
... AND THE REAL ROAD AHEAD

By AMIR TAHERI - NY Post Opinion

May 4, 2004 -- WHAT to do about Iraq? I was bombarded with this question during a recent visit to the United States.
The question is based on two assumptions. First, that Iraq is about to plunge into one of the nightmare scenarios discussed by self-styled experts on TV. Second, that there is some kind of magic wand that one could wave to transform Iraq into a paradise of freedom and prosperity.

Both assumptions are false.

The nightmares are often peddled by those who had opposed the liberation because they didn't wish to see a U.S.-led coalition bring down a Third World dictator. The doomsayers' initial prediction was that, deprived of its oppressor, Iraq would plunge into civil war. That has not happened, so they now warn of chaos, and predict a nationwide insurrection against the Coalition.

But is Iraq really plunging into chaos? Anyone in contact with Iraqi realities would know that the answer is: No.

Yes, a variety of terrorist, insurgent and ordinary criminals are active in the country. Parts of Baghdad remain unsafe. Some roads, especially in the desert area bordering Jordan and Syria, are prone to attacks by bandits. And, as in many other parts of the world where criminal gangs operate, there is also some hostage-taking. But most of Iraq's 18,000 villages and 200-plus towns and cities remain as safe, if not safer, than those in some other Arab countries.

The Coalition faces a problem in Fallujah. But Fallujah accounts for no more than 4 percent of Iraq's Sunni Arab community. Other major Sunni cities - Mosul, Ramadi, even Tikrit, Saddam Hussein's hometown - remain calm.



Fallujah has become a problem for specific reasons. It is at the heart of a region that has been the center of Sunni military elites since the creation of Iraq in 1921. It is also the capital of several Sunni Arab tribes with branches in other nations, including Syria and Jordan. And Saddam invested heavily there, especially by building housing for army, police and secret service personnel working in Baghdad. Ba'athist military and their families account for some 30 percent of the city's population. It is the Iraqi city that most resents Saddam's fall and the end of its privileges.

Yet even in Fallujah there is no evidence that a majority of the people regret liberation or want Saddam back. There are perhaps 2,000 insurgents, including dozens of non-Iraqi fighters, in the city. The fact that more than half of the city's inhabitants have left their homes shows that, though they may wish the occupation to end, they don't wish to side with the insurgents.

Those who claim that Iraq is in chaos also point to Najaf, where Muqtada al-Sadr, a 30-year-old Shiite cleric, is hiding in a number of holy shrines and mosques along with his so-called Army of the Mahdi. But talk to anyone in Najaf and you'll soon know that the overwhelming majority of the city's population wants Sadr to get the hell out. (After more than two weeks of contacts with Iraqi Shiite leaders and opinion-makers at various levels, this writer has not found anyone who supports Sadr and his shenanigans.)

Sadr is abusing the old Shiite practice of "bast," which consists of taking sanctuary in a holy shrine. But Najaf is a city of 500,000 people, while Sadr's followers number 3,000 at most.

And Sadr's quarrel with the Coalition is personal rather than principled. He resents not being given a share in the Governing Council, and is unhappy that he and 18 close associates are wanted for murder. His strategy is a typical desperado's: He hopes to force the Coalition out of Iraq, provoke chaos and, if not secure a chunk of power for himself, avoid prosecution for murder.

The Coalition would do well not to force its way into either Fallujah or Najaf. In each, it faces a group of armed men holding larger civilian populations hostage. In Fallujah, the insurgent Ba'athists are using Saddam's typical tactic of using human shields. In Najaf, Sadr and his gang use the Shiite shrines for the same purpose.

There is no nationwide insurrection in Iraq. Nor is Iraq suffering from a general breakdown in law and order. To be sure, it is no bed of roses. But the violence and insecurity are within the remit of normal in a post-liberation situation, and remain manageable.

As things stand, the Coalition does not need more troops. In fact, it should speed up withdrawals from the dozen or so cities and towns where its troops are deployed for policing, a task for which they are neither trained nor equipped. Disbanding the Iraqi army and national police was a major mistake. But that is spilt milk. What's now needed is a fast-track program to train and deploy more units of the new army and police.

What of the pundits' second assumption - that some magic wand could turn that country into an Arab Switzerland overnight? There is, of course, no such magic wand. And Iraq, while capable of moving towards pluralism, will need years to develop a stable democratic system.

When President Bush announced the start of the war to liberate Iraq, he promised to stay the course until the Iraqi people built a new democratic system. Implicit in that offer was that the Iraqis should play their part in what is by far the greatest challenge they have faced since their state was created eight decades ago.

The people of Iraq have kept their end of the bargain. They did not fight on Saddam's side, allowing the Coalition to achieve victory with remarkable ease. Since then, they've continued to do what is required of them - not only by isolating insurgents and terrorists, but also by beginning to rebuild their shattered country. As a string of recent polls, complemented by personal and anecdotal information, indicates, the overwhelming majority are still prepared to work with the Coalition to achieve their dream of a new political system based on human rights and pluralism.

The real question is: Will the Coalition keep its end of the bargain? Or will U.S. and British leaders, for reasons of domestic politics, lose their nerve, throw Iraq to the United Nations or some other ineffectual custodian and sacrifice the strategic goal of a democratic Middle East to tactical electoral considerations?

What to do in Iraq? The answer is simple: Don't lose your nerve!

Yes, Iraq can become another Vietnam - not because of anything that's happening there, but because America and its allies, for reasons of domestic politics, might panic and transform victory into defeat.


NEW YORK POST



To: carranza2 who wrote (42094)5/4/2004 11:10:21 AM
From: michael97123  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793743
 
There is an op ed piece in the NYT today that hit home. It's funny that i have been thinking much the same thing as time elapsed between the Bush endorsement of sharon gaza plan and today. I am interested in your thoughts. No one else here wants to take me on anymore because i am attacking the so called "competent" group bush put together. I suspect you will take me on. Mike

nytimes.com

Disrupting the Zero-Sum Game Between Palestinians and Israelis
By SERGE SCHMEMANN

Published: May 4, 2004

To its combatants, the Middle East conflict is often perceived as a zero-sum game. Each side thinks, We are the victims; they are the terrorists. When they strike, it is aggression; when we strike, it is just retaliation. To suggest that the other side also has just grievances and just demands becomes a denial of one's own suffering and claims.

Those with longer memories will recall the furious attacks on William Scranton when, as President Richard Nixon's envoy to the Middle East, he called for a more "evenhanded" American approach. It was as if Mr. Scranton had proposed that the United States abandon Israel. Henry Kissinger has described how Golda Meir, the Israeli prime minister, told him she expected the United States to be evenhanded, as long as that meant total agreement with Israel.

Every diplomat who has served in the Middle East, and every reporter who has covered the conflict, myself included, knows well the depth of these feelings. When I wrote about a close call with a suicide bombing, Palestinian colleagues assailed me for playing to the Israeli side; when I wrote about the agony of life under occupation, I was criticized by Israelis.

This zero-sum approach has always been central in efforts to negotiate a settlement because any compromise requires each side to surrender a portion of its national narrative. That is why both sides insist that their legitimacy be recognized as part of any agreement. The Israelis demand that the Arabs not only affirm their presence in Palestine, but also their right to a state.

For the Palestinians, it is equally critical that any negotiation start with an affirmation of their right to recover territories occupied by Israel in 1967, and of the right of refugees to return to all territories now held by Israelis. Each side knows that it will have to cede a portion of its claim in a final settlement, but it can do so only after the legitimacy of that claim is properly acknowledged.

Those few times when the Israelis and the Palestinians have reached official or unofficial agreements — as with the Oslo accords of 1993 or the unofficial Geneva agreement last year — progress was possible because each side was allowed to declare that its national claims had been vindicated. That's why the "road map" that President George Bush presented in 2003 required the Palestinians to affirm publicly "Israel's right to exist in peace," and why that same plan spoke of ending "the occupation that began in 1967."

Satisfying the conflicting claims to the Temple Mount/Haram al Sharif in Jerusalem/Al Quds, sacred to both sides, has always required the most creative solutions, like giving Israelis sovereignty over the Temple Mount while leaving Muslims in control of the sanctuaries. The symmetry of these proposals was highly delicate — knocking out any element collapsed the whole.

Americans have known this ever since they became the principal mediators in the conflict. Though the United States has been an unwavering supporter of Israel since the 1967 war, American presidents and secretaries of state have recognized that a credible mediating role also requires assuring Palestinians that the United States hears their grievances and will not give Israel a free hand to decide their fate unilaterally.

Tough love has often been needed. In the first Bush administration, Secretary of State James Baker III held up loan guarantees to Israel over the issue of settlements; President Bill Clinton compelled Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to withdraw from Hebron. No administration accepted Mrs. Meir's definition of evenhandedness.

Until last month, that is, when President Bush signed off on Israeli West Bank settlements and the abrogation of the Palestinians' right of return. He said he was merely recognizing the facts on the ground, and there is an element of truth to that, even if he missed the larger point. Anybody who's been to Ariel or Maale Adumim knows these "settlements" are real cities, just as everyone knows that a skyscraper in Tel Aviv will not revert into a Palestinian's olive grove.

But knowing how things should end has never been the problem in the Middle East. It's always been about how to get there, as the vote in Ariel Sharon's Likud Party, rejecting his initiative for Israel to withdraw unilaterally from Gaza, has made so abundantly clear.

It's hard to believe that Mr. Bush failed to realize that by denying critical elements of the Palestinians' national narrative, he was stripping them of negotiating leverage and undermining whatever faith they still had in American mediation. His father could have explained it to him; so could a close reading of his own road map, which held that refugees and borders were issues to be resolved at the negotiating table.

Mr. Sharon may find a way around his recalcitrant party, and America will no doubt continue its diplomatic efforts. But that critical illusion of symmetry has become more elusive.



To: carranza2 who wrote (42094)5/8/2004 9:38:40 PM
From: Dayuhan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793743
 

The reality of things is very different, I think, since we are seeing a large number of semi-autonomous groups who do not take direct guidance from AQ, and may have no connection at all to it other than parallel ideological goals, which are creating a lot of havoc.

This is not relevant to my point. We are stuck with a choice between violating the territorial integrity of an ally, a move that could bring down a government that we badly need to keep in power, or ceding a large safe haven to our enemies. Whether those enemies are AQ per se or a large number of semi-autonomous groups is not important: the Pakistanis will not be able to dislodge them, and if we try to do it ourselves we create a far larger mess.

America would do well not to focus too exclusively on AQ and Osama. That was yesterday’s enemy. The terrorists we should fear most are the ones whose pictures are not on Bush’s desk.

The terror web is spreading, but that is not surprising after the war in Afghanistan lanced the boil, spreading the disease everywhere.

The terror web is indeed spreading, less because of anything that happened in Afghanistan than because American policies and the words and attitudes that accompany those policies have created an environment conducive to the spread of Islamic extremism. We should not assume that we are safe just because we've flexed our muscles and kicked some butt. The opposite is more likely to be the case.

We chose not to deal with SA and Pakistan because the options are severely limited.

Are you suggesting that we ignore our most serious problems because they are not easy to manage? Options were limited in Iraq, too. We chose to put Iraq first, not because it was a bigger problem but because our government thought it politically necessary to use large-scale force somewhere, and Iraq was the only place where this particular option – the one we wanted to use – was available. Instead of moving on to the next tier of problems and using our considerable resources to develop strategies, we chose a politically driven strategy and looked for a place where we could use it.