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Politics : Impeach George W. Bush -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: jlallen who wrote (26625)	5/4/2004 11:46:28 AM
From: zonder	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 93284

And it seems to me that you have trouble understanding what you read. Unless you are about to argue Japan or Germany was a signatory in the Nuremberg Principles. Besides, we are talking about the DEFINITION. Here, I will show you how the nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were crimes against humanity: c) Crimes against humanity: namely, murder, extermination [check - that is what happened to the residents of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - they were killed], enslavement, deportation, and other inhumane acts committed against any civilian populations [check - those were civilian populations, not armies, on which the nukes were dropped], before or during the war [check - it was during the war]; or prosecutions on political, racial or religious grounds in execution of or in connection with any crime within the jurisdiction of the Tribunal, whether or not in violation of the domestic law of the country where perpetrated. dannen.com If there is anything else I can help you understand, do not hesitate to ask...

To: jlallen who wrote (26625)	5/4/2004 1:17:28 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93284

Zonder did not like my answer, which is that it is not a crime if the treaty defining it has been, in effect, voided by the actions of others. However, the others actually engaged in criminal acts, having been signatory to the relevant conventions, and having trashed them in the first place. A crime is a matter of law: since the law was established by treaty, if the treaty has in effect been abrogated by the actions of one party, the other party is no longer bound. This does not address the morality of the matter, of course, but on that score, we cannot let the others win by cheating, or we invite more cheating; survival was at stake; and the doctrine of choosing the lesser evil when in dilemma may be invoked. Thus, it was not even immoral to drop the bombs if there were a strong conviction that they were, in the long run, sparing lives.