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To: stockman_scott who wrote (44914)	5/4/2004 1:57:48 PM
From: Jim Willie CB	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

better a draft dodger, 'C' student as president than a war veteran with some medals and maybe one tainted incident ?????????? oy oy oy we as Americans get as president and Congress what we deserve we are a laughing stock to Europe in colonial times we were a ragtag bunch of farmers, drunks, sailors, and escaping settlers now we are a strange bunch of spending, rappers, obese, fraudulent con artists, family strugglers, low-skilled workers, and oh yes, unemployed / jim

To: stockman_scott who wrote (44914)	5/4/2004 10:05:45 PM
From: sylvester80	Respond to of 89467

Bush - "Laura and I spent time with the families of those who have died, and it's a hard but necessary part of the job." This is now the 3rd different occasion that Bush has said that. Based on his past record, that would be a LIE. So I wonder if an investigative reporter could end up calling all the families of those that died and find out what percentage of those did Bush and Laura spend time with and for how long. I certainly would like to know since this lying POS has such a record of lies. So might as well take him up on it and find out. I just fired an email to a few news sources and see what comes of it. If more can do the same, maybe we can get an answer. cnn.com

To: stockman_scott who wrote (44914)	5/4/2004 10:45:13 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 89467

Kerry's old Navy foe looks to sink senator By HELEN KENNEDY DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU Tuesday, May 4th, 2004 WASHINGTON - John Kerry's old nemesis - a fellow Vietnam vet picked by President Richard Nixon to discredit Kerry 30 years ago - is resurfacing today to declare him "unfit to be commander in chief." John O'Neill, who succeeded Kerry as commander of the same Navy Swift boat, will announce the formation of a new political group called Swift Boat Veterans For Truth, dedicated to undermining Kerry. O'Neill says he has a letter signed by hundreds of Navy vets, including many who served with Kerry, saying he is not commander-in-chief material. O'Neill's main beef is Kerry's charge that U.S. troops committed atrocities in Vietnam. "Our mission is to provide solid factual information relating to Mr. Kerry's abbreviated tour of duty," he wrote. Kerry campaign spokesman Chad Clanton said, "The group behind this is the same group that smeared Sen. John McCain of Arizona in the 2000 Republican presidential primary." The new attack comes as Kerry launched $25 million in new ads stressing his Bronze Star and Silver Star and featuring a veteran whose life he saved. Bush has spent $40 million on ads tagging Kerry as soft on defense, and Republicans have orchestrated a wide-ranging attack on his Vietnam record - including questioning the three Purple Hearts that sent him home early. While it may seem counterintuitive to go after Kerry's war service, the tactic worked against McCain. Sources in Bush's 2000 operation said the idea was never to sway voters but to infuriate the candidate. McCain reacted furiously in 2000, helping to derail his campaign. Kerry, meanwhile, was reduced to angry stammering when challenged about his medals on ABC last week. O'Neill, a Houston lawyer, is emerging to spearhead the new attack, just as he did for the Nixon White House in the 1970s. Nixon's secret tapes captured him fretting with aides about the political threat Kerry posed and plotting to "destroy" him. O'Neill, an articulate young vet who had criticized Kerry's anti-war speeches, was invited to the White House in 1971 and encouraged to debate Kerry. "Give it to him, give it to him," Nixon told O'Neill. O'Neill says he is not coordinating with the White House this time around. nydailynews.com