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To: Ilaine who wrote (131390)5/4/2004 4:39:20 PM
From: Sam  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Is it the same for Jews? Do Jews want to believe that nobody knew what was happening?

Not the ones I know. Or, at least, they don't have as black and white a picture as you do. I have known quite a few people who came from Germany, Poland or Russia during WWII. Especially their children. Some, like my wife's family, got out fairly early. But, in a way, it was an accident. What would have happened if her grandfather hadn't been arrested? Would he have believed it? I don't know. I do know that in his village of perhaps a thousand people and perhaps 100-150 Jews, about 30 or so got out when he did or shortly thereafter. The rest remained. Part of it was that their neighbors harbored them no ill will. In fact, the Mayor of the town was killed by the Nazis for trying to save a Jewish family.

You may wish to deny it as much as you want, but it is true that in the mid 30s, there was no plan for the gas chambers. The plan was to export the Jews as far from Europe as possible. I don't see why you want to call that a lie or despicable. It is simply the facts as I have been told them by people I know and respect. If the facts were otherwise, I would have no problem writing that. The period 1933-42 wasn't just "one" period, there wasn't just "one" master plan throughout that period. That doesn't lessen the enormity of what the guy and his friends did, IMO, nor do I see why it lessens the enormity of the evil which he chose. "Evil" isn't a static thing. Nor is it always an obvious thing. Try reading Hannah Arendt.