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To: TimF who wrote (187911)5/5/2004 7:19:55 PM
From: Road Walker  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1571166
 
re: but still the fact that welfare combined with other benefits can pay more then some entry level jobs does provide a perverse incentive. Sometimes people are less well off when they take a job.

Prove that that is significant, or even true.

re: I see your perspective but on the other hand it is in another way criminal to take from some by force, to help out others.

Crap. That's what government and taxes are all about. Everything bill, every road, everything the government does takes and gives. That's the fact Jack. The debate is who gives, who takes.

A compromise between those two ideas would be to have a temporary net set at a rather low level for most people, and a similarly low but longer term net for people who a seriously disabled.

There is so much give to Corporate welfare, why do you guys fret over a few 1/10's of a penny to a few folks that scam the welfare system. The Corps are scaming the system for many time that amount.

re: At least regular welfare is doing something that I see as wrong, in an effort to help people in desperate circumstances. With corporate welfare the actions taken are just as bad and the justification is far weaker.

That's why you are here arguing against basic welfare? Give me a break... you are just another brainwashed talk show conservative that is so self-absorbed that "welfare queen" boils the blood. Reality notwithstanding.

John



To: TimF who wrote (187911)5/6/2004 9:42:41 AM
From: TigerPaw  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571166
 
you could make a strong effort to find a job and then work hard to move up,

In most jobs, there is not a continuous pathway of increasing responsibility and reward. If you are, for example, cleaning the halls in a computer firm you are not likely to transisition into programming without a discontinuous event (such as schooling) that is not generally a practical option for all the hall cleaners.

TP


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