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To: LindyBill who wrote (42393)5/5/2004 9:57:37 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793745
 
WHAT'S CAIR'S AGENDA?
By Cori Dauber - Ranting Profs

CAIR, the Council on American Islamic Relations, always promotes itself as a "civil rights group." Sure. It's leadership has documented ties to terrorist groups. (See also here, and especially here.) And its agenda is to promote itself as the spokesperson for Muslims in the country -- whether the Muslims in the country like it or not.

Who, after all, elected CAIR?

Their real agenda is to ensure that no one in public life offers any voice critical of Muslims or Islam, and to make sure that Muslims are always portrayed as victims. Michele Malkin writes today that they now have a concerted strategy in place to focus on conservative talk radio hosts. She mentions in the piece that they push the idea of big spikes in hate crimes. In fact, it's been impossible to get good figures on what constitute the basis for hate crimes data since 9/11. Are those hate crimes real physical attacks? vandalizing mosques? or leaving racist messages on answering machines? Because while all would count as "hate crimes" it's pretty clear that they don't all constitute an equal degree of harm.

Meanwhile, just the other day Glenn Reynolds was posting on the question, posting both on the noted unreliability of CAIR and on the fact that according to the FBI, anti-Semitic hate crimes still outnumber anti-Muslim hate crimes roughly 10:1. But it wasn't but two or three day's ago that I was posting about a representative from CAIR in Canada who had the nerve to tell a reporter with a straight face that she knew that hate crimes were underreported by ninety percent. Knowing that which is by definition unknowable with such precision! That's a pretty good trick.

This isn't to say that there aren't either civil rights violations against Muslims or hate crimes against them in this country. It is to say that if you hear facts and figures in a news story attributed to CAIR, be very, very skeptical.



To: LindyBill who wrote (42393)5/6/2004 7:57:31 AM
From: michael97123  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793745
 
Tom Friedman below:

Maybe so Bill. The great fight in the WOT and the revival of this economy from deflation and almost sure depression will not save Bush from the perception of an iraq debacle. The real story here is that Rummy and Cheney were not neocons and apparently had little interest in nation building. For them the war was more about realpolitic, oil and business opportunities with a little wmd thrown in. So they won the war on the cheap but assumed that on the cheap would work for pacification too.
Bush, save thy presidency and fire Rummy. Cheney take one for the team and resign as VP immediately for health reason, so Bush can appoint a new VP immediately.
And then do as former Mayor of NY Bob Wagner once did, run against your own record in Iraq. With a new SD and VP, Bush will appear fresher than Kerry. Add to that a couple of more good employment numbers and you pull off a miracle. And for us here on this thread, forget about challenging kerry's vietnam record. The American people will ultimately "backlash" against an attempt to demonize a guy who volunteered for service when most of us in that era were home. Mike

nytimes.com
Restoring Our Honor
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

Published: May 6, 2004

We are in danger of losing something much more important than just the war in Iraq. We are in danger of losing America as an instrument of moral authority and inspiration in the world. I have never known a time in my life when America and its president were more hated around the world than today. I was just in Japan, and even young Japanese dislike us. It's no wonder that so many Americans are obsessed with the finale of the sitcom "Friends" right now. They're the only friends we have, and even they're leaving.

This administration needs to undertake a total overhaul of its Iraq policy; otherwise, it is courting a total disaster for us all.

That overhaul needs to begin with President Bush firing Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld — today, not tomorrow or next month, today. What happened in Abu Ghraib prison was, at best, a fundamental breakdown in the chain of command under Mr. Rumsfeld's authority, or, at worst, part of a deliberate policy somewhere in the military-intelligence command of sexually humiliating prisoners to soften them up for interrogation, a policy that ran amok.

Either way, the secretary of defense is ultimately responsible, and if we are going to rebuild our credibility as instruments of humanitarian values, the rule of law and democratization, in Iraq or elsewhere, Mr. Bush must hold his own defense secretary accountable. Words matter, but deeds matter more. If the Pentagon leadership ran any U.S. company with the kind of abysmal planning in this war, it would have been fired by shareholders months ago.

I know that tough interrogations are vital in a war against a merciless enemy, but outright torture, or this sexual-humiliation-for-entertainment, is abhorrent. I also know the sort of abuse that went on in Abu Ghraib prison goes on in prisons all over the Arab world every day, as it did under Saddam — without the Arab League or Al Jazeera ever saying a word about it. I know they are shameful hypocrites, but I want my country to behave better — not only because it is America, but also because the war on terrorism is a war of ideas, and to have any chance of winning we must maintain the credibility of our ideas.

We were hit on 9/11 by people who believed hateful ideas — ideas too often endorsed by some of their own spiritual leaders and educators back home. We cannot win a war of ideas against such people by ourselves. Only Arabs and Muslims can. What we could do — and this was the only legitimate rationale for this war — was try to help Iraqis create a progressive context in the heart of the Arab-Muslim world where that war of ideas could be fought out.

But it is hard to partner with someone when you become so radioactive no one wants to stand next to you. We have to restore some sense of partnership with the world if we are going to successfully partner with Iraqis.

Mr. Bush needs to invite to Camp David the five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council, the heads of both NATO and the U.N., and the leaders of Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Syria. There, he needs to eat crow, apologize for his mistakes and make clear that he is turning a new page. Second, he needs to explain that we are losing in Iraq, and if we continue to lose the U.S. public will eventually demand that we quit Iraq, and it will then become Afghanistan-on-steroids, which will threaten everyone. Third, he needs to say he will be guided by the U.N. in forming the new caretaker government in Baghdad. And fourth, he needs to explain that he is ready to listen to everyone's ideas about how to expand our force in Iraq, and have it work under a new U.N. mandate, so it will have the legitimacy it needs to crush any uprisings against the interim Iraqi government and oversee elections — and then leave when appropriate. And he needs to urge them all to join in.

Let's not lose sight of something — as bad as things look in Iraq, it is not yet lost, for one big reason: America's aspirations for Iraq and those of the Iraqi silent majority, particularly Shiites and Kurds, are still aligned. We both want Iraqi self-rule and then free elections. That overlap of interests, however clouded, can still salvage something decent from this war — if the Bush team can finally screw up the courage to admit its failures and dramatically change course.

Yes, the hour is late, but as long as there's a glimmer of hope that this Bush team will do the right thing, we must insist on it, because America's role in the world is too precious — to America and to the rest of the world — to be squandered like this.