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To: Bilow who wrote (131713)5/6/2004 9:54:35 AM
From: ManyMoose  Respond to of 281500
 
Have you read "Kiln People?" By duplicates, I assume is meant "clones?" Something rather like that was done in the Civil War except that rich people could hire surrogates to perform their military service for them. Thanks for the reference. I'll check it out.

I'm thinking about Churchill: "Nothing is worse than war? Dishonor is worse than war. Slavery is worse than war." I don't see how you can have honorable -- or free -- Kiln People.

And while we're on the subject, Tacitus: "A bad peace is even worse than war." A bad peace would be one with dishonor and slavery.

A bad peace would be one where terrorists can encourage a peacekeepers to withdraw by murdering innocents far from the battlefield.

Have you seen anything like that lately?



To: Bilow who wrote (131713)5/6/2004 10:39:37 AM
From: Sam  Respond to of 281500
 
I just spoke with someone in the Reserve who returned from a 6 month stint in Africa "looking for terrorists." He thinks his Reserve unit will be called to Iraq in Sept. Says the people he knows who have been to Iraq and back say that morale is pretty bad, people just want to get out of there, whatever some say publicly. They don't want to fight for people who basically hate them and just want them to leave.

I can't say I blame them.