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To: one_less who wrote (45292)5/6/2004 2:43:30 PM
From: Suma  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
It that really necessary... It made me sick to read it.

Can't you be nasty in a nicer tone ?



To: one_less who wrote (45292)5/6/2004 4:35:08 PM
From: Skywatcher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
give me a break ok?
try and explain THIS
F.A.A. Official Scrapped Tape of 9/11 Controllers' Statements

May 6, 2004
By MATTHEW L. WALD



WASHINGTON, May 6 - At least six air traffic controllers
who dealt with two of the hijacked airliners on Sept. 11,
2001, made a tape recording that day describing the events,
but the tape was destroyed by a supervisor without anyone
making a transcript or even listening to it, the
Transportation Department said today.

The taping began before noon on Sept. 11 at the New York
Air Route Traffic Control Center, in Ronkonkoma, on Long
Island, but it was later destroyed by an F.A.A.
quality-assurance manager, who crushed the cassette in his
hand, cut the tape into little pieces and dropped them in
different trash cans around the building, according to a
report made public today by the inspector general of the
Transportation Department.

The inspector general, Kenneth M. Mead, had been asked by
Senator John McCain, chairman of the Senate Commerce
Committee, to look into how well the Federal Aviation
Administration had cooperated with the 9/11 Commission.

The quality-assurance manager told investigators that he
had destroyed the tape because he thought making it was
contrary to F.A.A. policy, which calls for written
statements, and because he felt that the controllers "were
not in the correct frame of mind to have properly consented
to the taping" because of the stress of the day, Mr. Mead
reported.

Another official, the center's manager, asked the
controllers to make the tape because "he wanted a
contemporaneous recordation of controller accounts to be
immediately available for law enforcement," according to
the Mead report, and was concerned that the controllers
would take a leave of absence immediately, which is
standard procedure after a crash.

On the tape, the controllers, some of whom had spoken by
radio to people on the planes and some who had tracked the
aircraft on radar, gave statements of 5 to 10 minutes each,
according to the Mead report.

The center manager had agreed with the president of the
local union chapter that the tapes would be destroyed once
the standard written statements were obtained, Mr. Mead
reported.

Neither the center manager nor the quality-assurance
manager disclosed the tape's existence to their superiors
at the F.A.A. region that covers New York, or to the
agency's Washington headquarters, according to the report.

None of the officials or controllers were identified in
the inspector general's report.

Other tapes were preserved, including conversations on the
radio frequencies used by the planes that day, and the
radar tapes. In addition, the controllers later made
written statements to the F.A.A., per standard procedure,
and in this case, to the F.B.I. as well.

But when one of the controllers asked if she could review
her portion of the audiotape to refresh her memory before
giving her witness statement, she was told she could not,
according to Mr. Mead's report.

The quality-assurance manager destroyed the tape despite an
e-mail message sent by the F.A.A. instructing officials to
safeguard all records and adding, "If a question arises
whether or not you should retain data, RETAIN IT."

The inspector general ascribed the destruction to "poor
judgment."

"The destruction of evidence in the government's
possession, in this case an audiotape particularly during
times of a national crisis, has the effect of fostering an
appearance that information is being withheld from the
public," the Mead report said. "We do not ascribe
motivations to the mangers in this case of attempting to
cover up, and we have no indication that there was anything
on the tape that would lead anyone to conclude that they
had something to hide or that the controllers did not carry
out their duties."

But keeping the tape's existence a secret, and then
destroying it did not "serve the interests of the F.A.A.,
the department, or the public," the report said.

The inspector general also noted that the official who
destroyed the tape had no regrets or second thoughts: "The
quality-assurance manager told us that if presented with
similar circumstances, he would again take the same course
of action."

Mr. Mead wrote that this attitude was "especially
troubling" and that supervisors should take "appropriate
administrative action."

Although the matter had been referred to the Justice
Department, the Mead report added, prosecutors said they
had found no basis for criminal charges.

An F.A.A. spokesman, Greg Martin, said that his agency had
cooperated with the 9/11 commission and that that was how
the tape's existence had become known at the agency's
headquarters.

"We believe it would not have added in any way to the
information contained in all of the other materials that
have already been provided to the investigators and the
members of the 9/11 commission," he said.

Nonetheless, Mr. Martin said that "we have taken
appropriate disciplinary action" against the
quality-assurance manager. For privacy reasons, he said, he
could not say what those actions were or identify any of
the employees involved.

nytimes.com

YOU CAN'T
EXCEPT FOR IT BEING JUST ANOTHER STINK SECRET IN THIS CABAL OF SECRECY



To: one_less who wrote (45292)5/6/2004 4:35:08 PM
From: Skywatcher  Respond to of 89467
 
Meanwhile....as Bush was lying his way into Baghdad....
THE REAL PROBLEM COUNTRIES HAVE BEEN ON IGNORE!
N. Korea May Have a Missile That Can Hit Guam
Pyongyang is ready to deploy a longer-range ballistic weapon, South Korean newspapers report. Hawaii might
even be within reach.

By Barbara Demick, Times Staff Writer

SEOUL — North Korea is preparing to deploy a newly developed ballistic
missile that has a range sufficient to reach U.S. bases in Guam and possibly
Hawaii, South Korean newspapers reported this week.

The North has been trying for years to develop ballistic missiles that could
reach the United States, but it has been widely assumed that such missiles
were in the developmental stage.

If the reports are
confirmed, they would be
an alarming development
given that the Pyongyang
government is also
pursuing nuclear
technology.

The reports cited
unnamed South Korean
officials saying that
intelligence satellites had
recently collected
evidence of two missile
bases under construction
in North Korea. Missiles
and mobile launching
pads observed at the
sites were said to be of a
design that did not resemble North Korea's
better-known Rodong missiles.

"We presume these bases to be for a new kind of
ballistic missiles — not Rodongs or Scuds," a
high-ranking South Korean official was quoted as
telling the Chosun Ilbo, a conservative daily
newspaper that broke the story.

The official told the newspaper that the missile was
likely to have a range of 1,800 to 2,500 miles,
making it capable of reaching key Pacific bases in
Guam and Okinawa. And because the missile can
be launched from a craft, it might be able to reach
Hawaii.

"I believe this is an entirely new missile," said Kim
Tae Woo, an expert on the North Korean military
at the Korea Institute for Defense Analyses in
Seoul. He said there was no evidence that North
Korea had test-fired the missile. But he said the
building of bases suggested that the government
was confident enough in the missile's accuracy to
prepare to deploy it, and that it was no longer in
the developmental stage.

Information about the missiles was reportedly gathered by U.S. intelligence satellites. Kim suggested
that neither South Korea nor the United States had been eager — for diplomatic and political reasons
— to make public the reports on the missile.

"Washington doesn't want to see anything shocking like this come out before the presidential election.
The South Korean government usually keeps silent about what North Korea is doing," Kim said.

The South Korean government has been trying to nudge North Korea into adopting a more conciliatory
position in ongoing discussions among them and four other countries over Pyongyang's development of
nuclear weapons. Talks on economic cooperation between the Koreas opened Wednesday in
Pyongyang. Low-level talks on the nuclear issue are scheduled next week in Beijing.

The South Korea Defense Ministry declined to answer questions about the intermediate-range missiles
at a news conference. Officials from the U.S. Embassy in Seoul also refused to comment.

North Korea's new missile bases were reportedly first detected late last year and are said to be 70% to
80% complete. One is located in Yangdok, 50 miles east of Pyongyang, and the other in Hochon in
North Hamgyong province.

North Korea's Rodong missile has a range of 810 miles, making it capable of reaching most of Japan.
In 1998, the North test-fired a long-range missile called the Taepodong 1 over Japan. But that missile
is considered to be in the development stage, as is the Taepodong 2, which is believed to have a
potential range of 4,000 miles.

"There is a lot of speculation about North Korea's efforts to build missiles that could reach the United
States, but there is no evidence that they've achieved that yet," said Hong Yong Pyo, a missile expert at
Hanyang University in Seoul.