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To: carranza2 who wrote (131793)5/6/2004 1:48:14 PM
From: Lou Weed  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
<<I disagree with you, particularly since e_g's focus is that Jews rely on the Holocaust to justify allegedly vile positions>>

Like I said in the post I made, I knew this would touch a particularly raw nerve and it's your right to disagree but you have to admit that the Israeli lobby is VERY influential in DC. It's just one of the many lobbying outfits that as e_g put it "are trying to capture the levers of power, and make the great horrible machine of government in Washington crank out benefits for them." AIPAC are one of the tops in that department...

caabu.org

C'est la vie mon ami......



To: carranza2 who wrote (131793)5/6/2004 1:55:09 PM
From: el_gaviero  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Carranza,
Can we have a debate about the influence of Jews on American foreign policy without name calling?
Any perusal of the evidence would lead to the conclusion that their influence has been enormous.
Also, a second point, my racialism is not hidden. It is up front. I am Anglo-Celtic. I am proud of my people. I want to preserve the cultural and genetic identity of my people. I also want to preserve the landscape of the country that my people made great. If my people find themselves in conflict with others, I will take the side of my people.
I am not a liberal (defined by Robert Frost as a man who will not take his own side in a fight).
Sorry if this makes you nervous.
I insist on having for myself and my people what ever other people have without the necessity of justification.

How many universities have "Jewish studies," "Black studies," or "Hispanic studies." But if I were to propose a "white studies" or "Euro studies" I would be called a racist.
Just for the record, note the difference between racialism and racism.
A racist believes in the superiority of his people.
A racialist believes in the uniqueness of his people.
The distinction is important. (Among other things, the second definition implies that your people too, are unique and that the best strategy is to live and let live. But also, it implies that if in fact conflict does emerge, one had best fight for one's own side.)