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To: Wyätt Gwyön who wrote (5746)	5/6/2004 2:35:21 PM
From: RealMuLan	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 116555

OT >>sorry, but that is a myth. << I would rather call it as a Fact. Pay attention, I said the origin, not the current language itself. "Historical linguistics" ? 70% of Japanese language before 1940s were consisted of Chinese characters. So they can say all they want, still cannot changed the historical fact. That is all I want say. >>that is because many old Japanese books were written in Chinese! << You are joking right? I am talking about the Japanese published books and newspaper before 1940s within the border of Japan. I am not talking about modern Japanese, nor do I care. Language is NOT static, it develops along with the society and economy. And I did learn 1.5 years of Japanese in college, so I am not entirely clueless about Japanese. Enough said.

To: Wyätt Gwyön who wrote (5746)	5/6/2004 6:21:58 PM
From: RealMuLan	Respond to of 116555

OT I can see you have been brain-washed about China and totally biased, so do not even want to continue the dialogue with you, but then I read this, so I think I have to clarify what I mean because you were distorting what I said. >>the use of the term "dialect" in China to describe what are distinct and mutually unintelligible languages is a form of propaganda. the leaders fear that if different languages are recognized, then different groups may want to be independent. in the West, these sorts of "dialects" have names like German, English, and Dutch. and of course they have political independence--which the Chinese do not want their ethnic minorities to have. << You gave yourself too much credit in explaining what I meant! The dialect I was talking about is dialect by any definition, including Cantonese, Fujianese... since they are all using the same written form of Chinese language. I am NOT talking about the minority ethnic group languages, like Tibetan, Mongolian.... There are 56 dif. ethnic groups in China, and 23 of them (if I remember correctly) have their own written and oral languages, including Han ethnic group and its Mandarin, and the other 30 some ethnic groups only have their own oral languages but not written form. Yet, they do have their own languages, NOT dialect! Don't even bother to answer me. You are on my IGNORE list!